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When will the Dow close below 10,000?

Settled as 4th Qtr 2008

Settled as '4th quarter 2008' as DJIA closed at 9,955.50 on October 6.

Questions suspension will be set at for 4:00 PM EDT.

Background:

Background: We all watch the news and see the current financial crisis in terms of its effects on our pocketbooks and consumer confidence, but what about the numbers game? The highest Dow opening came on Oct. 11, 2007 at 13,198.10, unfortunately from that point we've been on a slippery and troublesome downwards fall. The fickleness of Congress in passing a bailout plan has only added to the dismay. Since Oct. 11 the Dow has closed to within 365 points of the 10,000 mark which was passed in 1999.

The indecision on the hill cost the markets dearly and is one of the main reasons why we are so close to slipping below 10,000. Sept. 29th's 777-point drop was the biggest closing point drop ever for the index. It's widely expected that within the next week prior to a new bailout bill reaching the Congress the markets will have a wild up and down ride. If any further instability such as the errors of Sept. 29th occurred we'd certainly see another big loss which would most likely drop below 10,000, could such a situation occur once again though?


Market edited by Ryanj

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source.

 
Forecast history %
1st Qtr 2008
0%
2nd Qtr 2008
0%
3rd Qtr 2008
27%
4th Qtr 2008
66%
The Dow will not close below 10,000 this year.
7%
Settled as 4th Qtr 2008 on Tue 7th Oct 2008 2:22am PST

Suspend date: Wed 31st Dec 2008 2pm PST
Settlement date: Tue 7th Oct 2008 2:22am PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 6th Oct 2008 12pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: 1st Qtr 2008: 4%, 2nd Qtr 2008: 12%, 3rd Qtr 2008: 12%, 4th Qtr 2008: 12%, The Dow will not close below 10,000 this year.: 60%

Action history:

Created Tue 29th Jan 2008 5:07am PST by dotcomguy
Edited Thu 6th Mar 2008 1:28pm PST by andrew
Changed Description Tue 30th Sep 2008 9:01am PST by ryanj: show details
... ... We all watch the news and see the current financial crisis in terms of its effects on our pocketbooks and consumer confidence, but what about the numbers game? The highest Dow opening came on Oct. 11, 2007 at 13,198.10, unfortunately from that point we've been on a slippery and troublesome downwards fall. The fickleness of Congress in passing a bailout plan has only added to the dismay. Since Oct. 11 the Dow has closed to within 365 points of the 10,000 mark which was passed in 1999. <br/> <br/> The indecision on the hill cost the markets dearly and is one of the main reasons why we are so close to slipping below 10,000. Sept. 29th's 777-point drop was the biggest closing point drop ever for the index. It's widely expected that within the next week prior to a new bailout bill reaching the Congress the markets will have a wild up and down ride. If any further instability such as the errors of Sept. 29th occurred we'd certainly see another big loss which would most likely drop below 10,000, could such a situation occur once again though? <br/> <br/> <script type="text/javascript" src="http://widgetserver.com/syndication/subscriber/InsertWidget.js?appId=c32c0f0e-9a91-498f-b7be-4866cd3bcf44"></script><noscript>Get the <a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/widget/sanebull-world-market-watch">SaneBull World Market Watch</a> widget and many other <a href="http://www.widgetbox.com/">great free widgets</a> at <a href="http://www.widgetbox.com">Widgetbox</a>!</noscript>
Changed Description Tue 30th Sep 2008 9:08am PST by ryanj: show details
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Changed Description Tue 30th Sep 2008 9:43am PST by ryanj: show details
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Settlement requested Mon 6th Oct 2008 1:53am PST by elly: What will happened if today Dow close below 10 000? There is no such possibility and may be the question has to be voided.
Settlement requested Mon 6th Oct 2008 12:19pm PST by rogerkni: The Dow closed below 10,000 today.
Suspended Mon 6th Oct 2008 12:30pm PST by jenniandboys[Admin]: Flagged by admin: suspended pending settlement
Settled as '4th Qtr 2008' Tue 7th Oct 2008 2:22am PST by bayoubear[Admin]: Settled as '4th quarter 2008' as DJIA closed at 9,955.50 on October 6.

Questions suspension will be set at for 4:00 PM EDT.

Suspend date: Wed 31st Dec 2008 2pm PST
Settlement date: Tue 7th Oct 2008 2:22am PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 6th Oct 2008 12pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled details

 

Predictions (412)

1 year ago
tomtom predicted 4th Qtr 2008 (H$1,200 at 96%)
1 year ago
tomtom predicted 4th Qtr 2008 (H$600 at 94%)
1 year ago
bohnanza predicted 4th Qtr 2008 (H$60 at 96%)
1 year ago
m00mba predicted 4th Qtr 2008 (H$1,800 at 94%)
1 year ago
cmueller predicted 4th Qtr 2008 (H$100 at 92%)

Comments (10)

  1 dotcomguy
2nd Quarter all the way!
posted 1 year ago
Regardless of any legacy GWB may leave in the Middle East, John McCain will not be able to undo the economic damage the Republican Administration created. It IS the Stupid, Economy!
The DEMS have got the election wrapped up on the economy issue alone. Yes, I believe that we'll see the dark side of 10,000 this year. But, I think it will happen on or around November 1.
posted 1 year ago
  3 shadowfax
I love that phrase "It is the Stupid, Economy" will use that in discussion whenever the chance presents itself. thanks jers
posted 1 year ago
not mine, sry shadowfax. i picked it up from another hubdubber (i liked it real well too). wish i could give credit, but can't recall who.
posted 1 year ago
  5 pixelpaws
So far this year, the DJIA has only closed below 11,000 once, back on July 15; it rebounded about 250 points the next day. Short of a stunning economic collapse, the index is pretty safely above the 10,000 mark for the year.
posted 1 year ago
  6 pixelpaws
... you know, "stunning economic collapse" hasn't happened yet, but after we've knocked out 500 points of our safety net, I'm a lot less certain about this.
posted 1 year ago
  7 cjg999
And another 449 today. Wow.
posted 1 year ago
And -777 today on Black Monday 9/29. Remember the words of Thorstein Veblen. To paraphrase..."A recession (depression) is nothing more than an economic douche". So the financials will eventually bounce back stronger than they were before. (we hope)
posted 1 year ago
When you say "stunning economic collapse", pixelpaws, do you mean something like the worst one-day point drop ever?
posted 1 year ago
  10 bods
I knew it will collpase below 10k but didnt know the prediction will come so soon. I was expecting Nov.
posted 1 year ago

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