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Background: The Pennsylvania primary is the latest contest in which a large number of delegates are at stake. Who will win?

Settlement details:As reported by CNN based on number of pledged delegates.

 
Forecast history %
Hillary Clinton
98%
Barack Obama
2%
Settled as Hillary Clinton on Tue 22nd Apr 2008 4:55pm PST

Suspend date: Tue 22nd Apr 2008 4:55pm PST
Settlement date: Tue 22nd Apr 2008 4:55pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Tue 22nd Apr 2008 4:55pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: Hillary Clinton: 60%, Barack Obama: 40%

Action history:

Created Tue 12th Feb 2008 9:46pm PST by toodamnloud
Edited Sun 9th Mar 2008 5:48am PST by ryanj
Unsuspended Tue 22nd Apr 2008 6:23am PST by ryanj
Suspended Tue 22nd Apr 2008 7am PST : Suspend date reached
Unsuspended Tue 22nd Apr 2008 2:04pm PST by ryanj
Suspended Tue 22nd Apr 2008 3pm PST : Suspend date reached
Suspended Tue 22nd Apr 2008 4:55pm PST : Suspend date reached

Suspend date: Tue 22nd Apr 2008 4:55pm PST
Settlement date: Tue 22nd Apr 2008 4:55pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Tue 22nd Apr 2008 4:55pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled details

 

Predictions (1567)

1 year ago
coolxbeat predicted Hillary Clinton (H$100 at 98%)
1 year ago
jbolli predicted Hillary Clinton (H$1,000 at 91%)
1 year ago
jenniandboys[Admin] predicted Hillary Clinton (H$250 at 88%)
1 year ago
triathematician predicted Hillary Clinton (H$100 at 88%)
1 year ago
triathematician predicted Hillary Clinton (H$100 at 87%)

Comments (20)

  1 ryanj
I gather from the background data that you want this settled via the "pledged delegate" count?

Ryan
Hubdub U.S. Politics Content Editor
posted 1 year ago
That is correct.
posted 1 year ago
  3 sean
Don't bother with the lame youtube rubbish above, apparently Kevin Bacon is the devil or some such bollocks.
posted 1 year ago
  4 destry[Admin]
For what year is this? 2008, 2012, 2016? All of them are possible.
posted 1 year ago
  5 belarusia
Don't be stupid, if you don't have a clue then don't put H$ on it
posted 1 year ago
  6 destry[Admin]
Seriously I can't believe this question is so low, there seems to be nothing to indicate she will lose this state, if she wins by only 5% that would be a loss in her eyes.
posted 1 year ago
  7 mork[Power User]
New polls show Obama surge in Pa.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9335.html
posted 1 year ago
  8 mork[Power User]
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mork (This user: Is On Strike)
posted 1 year ago
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Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming
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lucidstates (This user: Is On Strike)
posted 1 year ago
  10 ironman288
Obama was at 20%, I put a 100 $H on him, and he jumped to 24% instead of the 21% it says I bumped him too... seems like a bug, possibly the same one affecting the "who will be president" question.
posted 1 year ago
Barack is now at 13% if you wanna make more ;-)
posted 1 year ago
  13 ironman288
i think that debate hurt obama a lot more than it should have... why wouldn't he just where a flag, lol?
posted 1 year ago
  14 shadow
As a citizen of legal voting age in central Pennsylvania, i have to put in my two cents. I believe that Obama has a lot of support among the younger voters, and the older voters. As some have seen in a recent speech made in pennsylvania, audience members booed Clinton when she started slamming Obama and his policies. I believe this, along with the positive campaign run by Obama oposed to the negative campaign run by Clinton gives a bigger advantage to Obama. Many polls in primary elections can't even come close to getting every point of view of an individual voter, so don't count your eggs before they hatch. (In this case, don't count your votes before they are cast.)
posted 1 year ago
  15 ryanj
Apologies for the confusion regarding suspend times. I thought I'd placed 8 o'clock suspend times. But my math must've been off. All PA markets are now set to a 7:55 end time.

Regards,

Ryan
Hubdub US Politics Content Editor
posted 1 year ago
How has this been decided??? 6% reporting and it's being called for Hellery??? Shenanigans!!!
posted 1 year ago
I agree. How can this one be settled when the polls only closed an hour ago and all votes aren't counted yet?
posted 1 year ago
Especially since this is supposed to be settled based on delegate count!
posted 1 year ago
yeah, just to say, this is a really early settlement, it may be right, but still, just wait!
posted 1 year ago
  20 ryanj
Hi,

The market was settled early once the major station like NBC and FOX began calling the primary. If it is a 99.9% chance that something will occur Hubdub Admins can settle a market early. This is why the market was settled early. Markets reagrding the exact margin of victory by delegates and popular vote were not settled because at the time of the primary being called not all precincts were reporting.

Regards,

Ryan
Hubdub US Politics Content Editor
posted 1 year ago

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