Will Apple announce a Music Subscription Service for iTunes Customers by July 7th, 2008?

Mork and Destry have pledged to NOT play this game any further until a satisfactory conclusion is made concerning Satyaki's cheating ... PLEASE follow this link and ask ALL of your (friends) to use these links to send hubdub's admins a huge protest over this unethical situation!

Please go to these links and post a protest as well and HELP the HubDub Community regain it's integrity!
http://www.hubdub.com/public/contact
^ There's an email form on that page ^
Post your decision at:
http://getsatisfaction.com/hubdub/topics/i_am_on_strike

lucidstates (dismayed)

Hey all hubdubbers, the admins who control this site want EVERYONE'S input on how to deal with this cheater Satyaki and ALL future gamers ... They are asking for everyone to post their opinions and suggestions for the official rules on this link:
http://getsatisfaction.com/hubdub/topics/proposed_new_procedure_for_dealing_with_gaming?
This ongoing problem stems from this:
http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Why_is_it_that_Satyaki_keeps_creating_Lahore_Badshahs_vs_xyz_team_questions_yet_Donal_doent_void_them_5294/view#newcomment

Here is the LATEST proposal from hubdub admins that they desire our say on:
Admins want a 4 strikes and your out process:
Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming
Hubdub Representative
To date we have dealt with gaming on a case by case basis. However it has become clear that we need to have a defined process for dealing with individuals that game. Therefore this is our proposed procedure:
1. First identified instance/set of instances: Email warning
2. Second identified instance/set of instances: Email warning, user placed on public watch list (for 2 weeks) and fined 50% of worth
3. Third instance/set of instances: Email warning, user placed on public watch list (for 2 weeks) and fined down to H$1,000
4. Any subsequent instance will result in their ability to create questions removed and potentially suspension of their account.
We propose to apply this procedure for all new instances of gaming however some users are on their first warning and one user is on their second warning.

HOWEVER, several of us users are calling for a MUCH stiffer penalty process and this is our overall latest proposal back to the admins:
We want a 3 strikes you're out process:
1. First identified instance/set of instances: Email warning, user placed on public watch list (for 2 weeks) and fined 50% of worth.
2. Second instance/set of instances: Email warning, user placed on public watch list (for 2 weeks to 30 days) and fined down to H$1,000. AND removal of the gamers' right to create question for a period of time.
3. Any subsequent instance will result in definite, permanent suspension of their account, their IP and all other accounts by the gamer.

Have your say and please add your input at the area the admins have set up for this purpose:
http://getsatisfaction.com/hubdub/topics/proposed_new_procedure_for_dealing_with_gaming?

lucidstates (This user: Is On Strike)

Wow, that's a huge price drop, does someone know something I don't? ... The Apple rumor sites don't show anything on this topic in the last 72 hours..... I do not currently have a bet on this, but hmmmm, this is interesting.

I took out a massive position saying no, so that pushed the numbers down. WWDC is on the 9th of June, so the store would have to be announced before the conference. While that's not unheard of (they pre-released all sorts of stuff before Macworld, and WWDC isn't a consumer show), I don't see it happening in the next month.

Or at least, I'm hoping it doesn't so I can win this bet ;)

Okay jonb thanks for the info :-) ... After your response, I am inclined to agree with you. My brother and I have debated this issue ALLOT and he is convinced that they are not going to announce such a service anytime before WWDC but also, he doesn't even see it until Jan at the earliest, but in all truth, he doesn't think they will do this AT ALL because they have no reason to as their share of the Legal Download Market is actually increasing and now tops 85%, so why would they need to go this route and potentially knock off some sales in order to just have mass downloaders for a flat fee.
I am inclined to agree and disagree with that prediction, as I believe that you both may be absolutely correct in predicting it WON'T be before WWDC, so I concede on that, however, I do believe that at the very latest, the service ill arrive by the Macworld Expo '09.
But take my prediction with a grain of salt, I could be dead wrong even still, as my brother is like a wizard when it comes to Apple and nearly all of his predictions over the last 11 years have been dead on, while I am always wayyyy behind the curve, hahaha.

lucidstates

I think subscription music is coming from Apple, definitely. It's just a matter of when. In fact, I think Apple is going to make The Apple Channel, with unlimited music, TV shows, and movies for a flat fee. No more cable, netflix, or rhapsody required. It could be huge.

But I just noticed I misread this. The question is if it will exist by July 7th, not June 7th. So that messes me up a little :) If it's announced at WWDC and then rolls out 3 weeks later, than I lose big time.

That's why I chose July 7th, because it allows enough time to go by after WWDC that it may happen, you never know what The Jobs Man has planned :-D ... Should be a GREAT WWDC 2008! ... I have a bunch of money on iPhone 3G by then!

Okay, so WWDC came and went and NO Music Subscription Service even hinted at...... Maybe at MacWorld 09 in January?