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Will Ralph Nader's participation in the presidential election cause the Dem's to lose the pop. vote?

Settled as No

Background: Will the Democratic Party lose the popular vote -and- would it have won if it had the votes that went for Nader?

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source.
So everyone is clear. When settlement occurs if the votes which went to Nader are added onto the Democratic popular vote and give the Democrats a lead in the popular vote this will be settled as a yes. It will be settled as a no if the above does not occur or if the Democrats win.

 
Forecast history %
Yes
9%
No
91%
Settled as No on Tue 4th Nov 2008 9:42pm PST

Suspend date: Mon 3rd Nov 2008 11:59pm PST
Settlement date: Tue 4th Nov 2008 9:42pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 3rd Nov 2008 11:59pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: Yes: 20%

Action history:

Created Sun 24th Feb 2008 2:12pm PST by zaratustra
Edited Mon 25th Feb 2008 3:40am PST by ryanj
Clarified Mon 25th Feb 2008 3:45am PST by ryanj: So everyone is clear. When settlement occurs if the votes which went to Nader are added onto the Democratic popular vote and give the Democrats a lead in the popular vote this will be settled as a yes. It will be settled as a no if the above does not occur or if the Democrats win.
Edited Mon 25th Feb 2008 3:46am PST by ryanj
Suspended Mon 3rd Nov 2008 11:59pm PST : Suspend date reached
Settlement requested Tue 4th Nov 2008 9:41pm PST by newswrangler[Power User]: Winning prediction = "No"

The Democrats won the popular vote.
Settled as 'No' Tue 4th Nov 2008 9:42pm PST by destry[Admin]

Suspend date: Mon 3rd Nov 2008 11:59pm PST
Settlement date: Tue 4th Nov 2008 9:42pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 3rd Nov 2008 11:59pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled details

 

Predictions (22)

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kirin predicted No (H$1,000 at 91%)
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Comments (9)

You might wanna have ""Green Party" edited out. He ran once on the Green party ticket, but, AFAIK, he's not this time.
posted 1 year ago
he has stated he will run as a third party candidate. but he has not declared which party.
posted 1 year ago
Oops.
posted 1 year ago
  4 ryanj
So everyone is clear. When settlement occurs if the votes which went to Nader are added onto the Democratic popular vote and give the Democrats a lead in the popular vote this will be settled as a yes. It will be settled as a no if the above does not occur or if the Democrats win.

Ryan
Hubdub U.S. Politics Content Editor
posted 1 year ago
Popular vote? Sorry Ryan, I have to take exception to that. POTUS is elected by the electoral college, not popular vote. If the Hubdub admins are willing to do a district-by-district analysis of how the electoral college vote works out, adding Nader votes to the Democratic candidate, that is okay (don't forget MD has agreed to have all their representatives at the EC vote with the national popular vote). Otherwise, I think this question must be voided.
posted 1 year ago
  6 ryanj
I'm not going by the electoral college here, I'm going by popular vote. The market poses a very interesting question, which is very hard to settle, the only way to settle it would be the way stated above. If enough people though don't like the way the market is run then I will void. As of right now I'm tempted to keep it. Anyone else have a viewpoint?

Ryan
Hubdub U.S. Politics Content Editor
posted 1 year ago
I agree -- it's a very interesting question.

AnAverageAmerican makes a compelling argument -- as, at the end of the day, the only thing that really matters is the electoral vote -- except for MD (and hopefully other states in the future).

If the democrats were to lose (or even if they win), I don't think it would be difficult to settle this market (with a definitive answer about the effect of Nader, based on electoral votes) ... my sense is that MSNBC, CNN, NYT and others would be ALL OVER that story, and have the analysis available *almost immediately*.

As an aside, there probably ought be an update made to the "Politics Question Rules" to specify which vote (electoral or popular) is the "default" to cover new questions moving into the US general election.

My cent-cent worth = )
posted 1 year ago
  8 dieseldog
i think a question was settled that nader don't win any party nomination. if thats the case this should be settled as no, or voided. correct?
posted 1 year ago
Mr. Nader is running as an Independent.
posted 1 year ago

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