Will a post-Kyoto agreement be signed by 2012?

Even if one is signed, it won't be a big deal unless the U.S. or China sign it.

The Kyoto protocol has been big news, particularly with the EU, which is why there is so much pressure on the US to ratify the next one. Even if the targets haven't been achieved, the political pressure the protocol has generated is still significant.

with kyoto, there was supposed to be like 75% of the largest countries sign or whatever...on what basis will this Q be decided?

Climategate claims its first big political scalp
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100018413/climategate-claims-its-first-big-political-scalp/
Australian conservatives have shown the way by dumping the party leader who was in favour of massive carbon taxes and replacing him with one who stated last month that AGW is “crap.”

This makes Malcolm Turnbull, the suddenly-ex-leader of Australia’s Liberal party, the first major political victim of the Climategate furore. And his replacement Tony Abbott, the first politician to reap the benefits of the world’s growing scepticism towards ManBearPig. Of the three candidates, he was the only one committed to delaying the Australian government’s proposed Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS).
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While I don't dispute that there has been a general warming trend to the environment over the last 10,000 years, the science supporting CO2/human caused global warming is dubious. That's not to say we aren't royally screwing up this planet as fast as we can by using unsustainable agricultural practices, burning fossil fuels like they were infinite, and overpopulation, but the idea that Carbon Taxes and Cap and Trade are anything but new ways for the governments of the world to have new sources of income is ignorant.

Scott Ott's Examiner Scrappleface: Obama Copenhagen speech solves climate crisis
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Obama-Copenhagen-speech-solves-climate-crisis-8666528-79570882.html

Delegates to the global climate conference in Copenhagen sat in stunned silence today as President Obama solved the global warming crisis with a single 25-minute speech.
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