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Will any murderers of Eve Carson if convicted be sentenced to the death penalty?

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Yes
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No
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Predictions on this question are temporarily suspended

Suspend date: Wed 30th Sep 11:59pm PST

Initial likelihoods: Yes: 50%

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Created Sat 28th Jun 2008 5:33am PST by coolkraft
Suspended Sun 28th Jun 11:59pm PST : Suspend date reached
Changed Suspend date Sat 4th Jul 8:40am PST by ryanj: was: "2009-06-28 23:59:00"
Unsuspended Sat 4th Jul 8:40am PST by ryanj: Market suspend date moved up as trial is ongoing
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7 weeks ago
notablenotices[Power User] predicted Yes (H$5 at 43%)
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frogchop predicted Yes (H$150 at 47%)

Comments (21)

Do you mean, if convicted, "will they be sentenced" to the death penalty, or "will they be executed"?
posted 1 year ago
I forgot to include ... you might wanna consider asking for an edit to change "murderers" to "will any murderer of ..." (for instance, one, or more, might plea bargain to testify in exchange for life imprisonment) -- it all depends on what you want to ask ;-)
posted 1 year ago
  3 coolkraft
if convicted will be sentenced to the death penalty....any murderer of...ty again for input
posted 1 year ago
  4 coolkraft
where is edit to change?
posted 1 year ago
@ coolkraft -- what you wanna do is click on the "Flag for review" link (under the "Make Your Prediction! options), and clearly enter the corrections you want made. This will send a flag to the Category Editor who can then make those changes for you.

If users have already made predictions on what they thought the original market question meant -- different from any edited version, they can flag the Category Editor after seeing the edited changes, and request their individual predictions be voided.

BTW, as this is a trial (that hasn't begun), you may want to ask that the suspend date be changed -- to at least a year. You could also ask that a "settlement condition" be added to the question (the question itself, or to the "settlement details") ... something like "This will settle upon trial, or acceptance of guilty pleas, and sentencing of all defendants."

Last ;-) you could request that your news keywords be added to include "Eve Carson". That will likely draw in more relevant news for users to follow, than what you currently have ;-)
posted 1 year ago
  8 coolkraft
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/16/unc.carson.deathpenalty/index.html

going for the death penalty
posted 42 weeks ago
I am offended...the death penalty is immoral. How can this even be discussed here....every person counts. This is an outrage. How will I sleep tonight? It's legalized, state sanctioned MURDER!!!!! Sure, save people that have not even been born but murder those who are here.....I can't believe this site has sunk to this level....(calling my therapist RIGHT NOW).
You bad, bad, monsters.
posted 42 weeks ago
Murder is taking an individuals life without due process. Contrast murder with self defense and capital punishment - non-criminal homicides.
posted 42 weeks ago
The death penalty exists out of respect for human life. When a person commits murder they have had no respect for a human life, and to ignore that & let the murderer continue to live shows deep disrespect for the life taken.

Another strong argument for the death penalty is the 0% recidivism. However that is a side benefit, and not the main reason.
posted 42 weeks ago
  12 kruijs[Power User]
so wiping out a human's life is perfect accordable to having respect for humans life.
now that is double tongue par excellence.

IMO a strong argument against is the 0% recidivism. how many people must die for a crime they did not carry out until everyone understands this. oh, what was that about the respect for a humans life again?
posted 42 weeks ago
  13 curios
kruijs> i have to agree with you here the is currently a case up for compensation over here. where he spend years inside and was eventually found to be innocent.
posted 42 weeks ago
  14 curios
i am against death penalty. but if it was found that a girl had been raped i know in my heart i could help cut out his short and cur lies
posted 42 weeks ago
People are not amoral like rocks, trees or candy wrappers.

"so wiping out a human's life is perfect accordable to having respect for humans life."
Yes, because morally, not all choices humans make are equal. Respect for life does not require respect for or tolerance of evil.

This is objectionable to some because it introduces further questions, such as: "who decides which actions and which people are good/evil?" and "isn't this like playing God?", but these questions assume a moral distinction between good and evil.

I suspect that the root of our debate is relativism.
posted 42 weeks ago
kruijs:

You are the only person who is talking about someone dying for a crime they did not commit. I hope you are not in the criminal justice field! That is the very opposite of having respect for a human life. Do you think recidivism is helped by extinguishing an innocent life? And what do you think would be an appropriate punishment for an innocent person?

The death penalty I was talking about was for people who commit murder. Not all murderers are innocent. In fact none of them are. And many of them are not contested - you see stories often where they are recorded on camera, witnessed by many people, identified by the victim, admitted by the defendant and similar things. Of course not all cases are so clearly settled, but that is a different topic.
posted 42 weeks ago
  17 coolkraft
To my mind this heinous crime is exactly what the death penalty warrants.
posted 42 weeks ago
  18 kruijs[Power User]
sorry, notable, I misunderstood the meaning of the word "recidivism". I understood it as it would mean something like "irreversible". hope that way my post makes more sense.
I still, though, stand by my argument that as long there is the slightest chance of anyone be falsely killed through the death penalty nobody should be in favor of the death penalty at all.
Personally, I think the death penalty simply contradicts "respect for human life". You can't have both.
posted 42 weeks ago
  19 kruijs[Power User]
fof
doesn't "respect" mean to you "don't tough"?
or are there different "moral"-dependent versions of "respect" like "insure", "defend", "avenge" and "erase"?

I can't follow you. you say, a human should judge by his moral whether or not someone deserves to die?
posted 42 weeks ago
  20 frogchop
Sentenced to is the easy part on this one. NC has a history of lots of sentencing, but very few actual executions. While it's not as bad as California, which houses 667 death row inmates while having only executed 13 in the last 30 years, it's list of those awaiting their punishment is far longer than the list of those executed.

While I personally oppose the death penalty, I'm betting on the savageness of the crime on this one to play well to the jury. More than anything, I oppose what I saw at the McVeigh trial, where people felt there was no justice unless he was put to death. To me, it's more about what it does to us as a society than what it does to any individual. There's far more to be gained by learning to forgive than thinking an eye for an eye is justice. That doesn't mean letting them run free, but it means more than if you have a problem, you seek the most expedient solution.
posted 39 weeks ago
  21 Erik
why is this "death pool" market still here?
posted 19 weeks ago

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