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Which US manufacturer will lose its independency first?

Current forecast: None of these before suspend date (41% chance9%)
Combining all predictions, the current most likely outcome is None of these before suspend date with a probability of 41% (down 9% in last 1 day)

America’s Motor City automakers are experiencing one of the most severe downturns in history, one that will require more cash and more time for them to adjust to the new realities (...)
But in the event that Ford Motor Co., General Motors Corp. or Chrysler LLC is unable to shore up more liquidity, the automakers could be more likely to try a recapitalization than a bankruptcy protection filing, argues Citigroup Global Markets analyst Itay Michaeli.
(http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/tradingdesk/archive/2008/07/10/recapitalization-more-likely-than-bankruptcy-for-big-3-automakers.aspx)

There's a non-publicized view held among foreign-car lobbyists that General Motors is much scarier dead or bankrupt than alive.
(http://www.nysun.com/opinion/memo-to-dc-let-gm-fail/81544/)

General Motors once manufactured half the cars on the American road, but now it sells barely 2 in 10. Bankruptcy is not unthinkable for Detroit’s former king.
(http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/10/opinion/10lowenstein.html?hp)

http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/07/09/gm-washington-detroit-oped-cx_jt_0710tamny.html
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080710/BUSINESS02/8675799

 
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General Motors Corp.
9%
Ford Motor Co.
18%
Chrysler LLC
32%
None of these before suspend date
41%
Activity: H$15,443
Question suspends in 17 weeks
All questions are settled by Hubdub according to settlement info provided by the question creator.

Settlement details: As reported by a major mainstream news source. Valid for settlement is any of these events: bankruptcy or bankruptcy protection filing, merging or takeover. Not valid for settlement (either way) is a recapitalization.
Spitzer clause applies.

Suspend date: Wed 31st Dec 11:59pm PST (17 weeks to go)

Initial likelihoods: General Motors Corp.: 20%, Ford Motor Co.: 15%, Chrysler LLC: 20%, None of these before suspend date: 45%

Action history:

Created Thu 10th Jul 1:13pm PDT by kruijs[Power User]
All questions are settled by Hubdub according to settlement info provided by the question creator.

Settlement details: As reported by a major mainstream news source. Valid for settlement is any of these events: bankruptcy or bankruptcy protection filing, merging or takeover. Not valid for settlement (either way) is a recapitalization. ... read all

 

Predictions (84)

84 predictions

3 weeks ago
bayoubear[Admin] predicted Chrysler LLC (H$500 at 24%)
3 weeks ago
ryanb37 predicted Chrysler LLC (H$500 at 16%)
4 weeks ago
wandaoleary predicted General Motors Corp. (H$20 at 11%)
4 weeks ago
kruijs[Power User] predicted Ford Motor Co. (H$1,000 at 13%)
5 weeks ago
bout3fitty predicted None of these before suspend date (H$500 at 62%)
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Comments (7)

  1 skipper[Power User]
Great question Kruijs!
I love the "Spitzer clause applies"!!
posted 6 weeks ago
Did anyone see that TV special last week with Ted Koppel about China. Ford should blow off the U.S. markets and strictly focus on China if they want to be on top.
posted 4 weeks ago
  3 intlibber
Um when did Chrysler split from Daimler Chrysler?
posted 3 weeks ago
  4 ryanb37
Cnn Business reported on the news this morning that Chrysler and Nissan are going
scheduled for talks today about a merger
posted 3 weeks ago
  5 bayoubear[Admin]
So if they announce that they are going to merge, the question should be settled as per the Spitzer Rule, right?
posted 3 weeks ago
  6 kruijs[Power User]
Wrong. Well, not automatically.

Spitzer applies only to Politics.

2.3.1 Politics Category
"Unless specified otherwise, a question asking when a public figure will resign will be settled on the date the figure announces their intention to resign rather than the date the resignation becomes effective (the Spitzer clause)."

2.3.3.4 Business Category
"Unless otherwise specified, questions asking whether company X will be acquired (or merge with company Y) by date Z will be settled on completion of the deal, not on announcement."

Unless, ofcourse, there is a change is the rules which has not been published until now.

BUT I did explicitly state in the settlement details that the Spitzer applies on this question (to make confusion perfect ;)
posted 3 weeks ago
  7 kruijs[Power User]
To answer your question, bayoubear: Yes, this question would settle per Spitzer clause on announcement.
posted 3 weeks ago

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