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Will the Yeti turn out to be real?

Settled as No, from another known species

Scientists in the US who have examined hairs claimed to belong to a yeti in India say that in fact they belong to a species of Himalayan goat.

They say that DNA tests on the hairs - obtained from the north-east Indian state of Meghalaya - show that they are from a goat known as a Himalayan Goral.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7666900.stm

Background:

Background: "LONDON (AFP) — A British scientist said Monday he was anxiously awaiting the results of DNA tests on hair claimed to be from a yeti after initial examinations showed it had human and ape-like characteristics.
(...)
'These hairs remain an enigma. They could be a new species, but the DNA tests will hopefully tell us more.' Ian Redmond [a biologist and expert in ape conservation] told AFP.
(...)
While the microscope tests were inconclusive, the hairs are now undergoing DNA tests in separate laboratories in Oxford and Cardiff."

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jAawDVnZ3ESmeydF_C6woPbtvO-g

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source. Settlement when the results of the DNA tests are published and should not suspend before.

 
Forecast history %
No, from a known boar species
4%
No, from a known bear species
4%
No, from a known ape species
19%
No, from a known yak species
4%
No, is human (Redmond's beard, for example)
5%
No, from another known species
51%
No, from a new species but not so called yeti
11%
Yes, the yeti, mande barung, or snowman is found
2%
Settled as No, from another known species on Sat 18th Oct 2008 6:37pm PST

Suspend date: Wed 31st Dec 2008 11:59pm PST
Settlement date: Sat 18th Oct 2008 6:37pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 13th Oct 2008 3:20am PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: No, from a known boar species: 9%, No, from a known bear species: 9%, No, from a known ape species: 9%, No, from a known yak species: 9%, No, is human (Redmond's beard, for example): 15%, No, from another known species: 15%, No, from a new species but not so called yeti: 30%, Yes, the yeti, mande barung, or snowman is found: 4%

Action history:

Created Wed 30th Jul 2008 12:29pm PST by kruijs[Power User]
Settlement requested Sat 18th Oct 2008 4:15pm PST by rogerkni: "Yeti Hairs are Goral":
Here's the link:
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/yeti-goral/
Suspended Sat 18th Oct 2008 6:33pm PST by tisha[Admin]: checking settlement sources
Settled as 'No, from another known species' Sat 18th Oct 2008 6:37pm PST by tisha[Admin]: Scientists in the US who have examined hairs claimed to belong to a yeti in India say that in fact they belong to a species of Himalayan goat.

They say that DNA tests on the hairs - obtained from the north-east Indian state of Meghalaya - show that they are from a goat known as a Himalayan Goral.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7666900.stm

Suspend date: Wed 31st Dec 2008 11:59pm PST
Settlement date: Sat 18th Oct 2008 6:37pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 13th Oct 2008 3:20am PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled details

 

Predictions (172)

1 year ago
jolleyjoetolley predicted No, from another known species (H$100 at 52%)
1 year ago
sweetrainbow09 predicted No, from another known species (H$100 at 51%)
1 year ago
lvnmom22 predicted No, from another known species (H$50 at 49%)
1 year ago
rogerkni predicted No, from another known species (H$100 at 49%)
1 year ago
gcawood predicted No, from another known species (H$30 at 49%)

Comments (12)

  1 hoernla
Certainly a question which proves your sense of humour, Kruijs!
posted 1 year ago
Maybe it's Yeti Bin Laden?
posted 1 year ago
what exactly would make it a yeti and not another species that was unknown?
posted 1 year ago
  4 kruijs[Power User]
I don't know exactly. The article uses this sentence:
"Marak believes the hairs come from an ape-like Indian version of the fabled yeti, or abominable snowman, called mande barung, which he believes stands about three metres (10 feet) tall."
Whatever they will find out about that hair, I assume they will say whether they think it's the yeti species or just another unknown (sub)species which does not match the description of a yeti.
posted 1 year ago
  5 jchiang
Regarding the option related to 'ape' species are apes defined as

"Apes—the group of primates most closely related to humans—includ gorillas, orangutans, chimpanzees, and gibbons. The hands, feet, and face of an ape are hairless, while the rest of its body is covered with coarse black, brown, or red hair."

This means, other primates such as lemurs, lorises, tarsiers,langurs and monkeys are not considered "apes"?
posted 1 year ago
We all know that there is no yeti so its just a competition to see which one of the top ones it is. A very interesting question built upon very dumb assumptions by some hippy scientist in Britain.
posted 1 year ago
  7 intlibber
jchiang, right apes and monkeys are separate families, however homo sapiens is an ape species (as DNA tests show, there is less genetic variation between male human and chimp than between male and female humans (same for females of the two species)), all apes are properly labeled "Hominids" or Hominidae.

Heres a good taxonomy:
http://homepage.mac.com/wildlifeweb/primate/photos/species.html

Cheirogaleidae Dwarf Lemurs and Mouse Lemurs
Lemuridae Lemurs
Megaladapidae Lepilemur
Indridae Avahi, Indris, and Sifakas
Daubentoniidae Aye-aye
Loridae Pottos and Lorises
Galagoniidae Galagos
Tarsiidae Tarsiers
Callitrichidae Marmosets and Tamarins
Cebidae Cebid Monkeys
Cercopithecidae Old World Monkeys
Hylobatidae Gibbons and Siamang
Hominidae Great Apes and Man

If this researcher found commonalities between this hair and other great apes and man, then it is likely a hominid of some sort. That negates the boar, bear, and yak choices. If it was from a known ape species, you'd think an ape expert could tell you which one.
posted 1 year ago
  8 intlibber
Fauna of Meghalaya region:

"The Animal Kingdom
The species found here are - Hoolock - the only tailless ape in India, Golden Cat, Leopard Cat, Jungle Cat, Large Indian Civet, Binturong or Bear Cat, Himalayan Black Bear, Barking Deer, Pangolin.

Some species of various families of mammals namely Primates, the Cats, Civets, Mongooses, Dogs, Bear, Weasels, Bats, Rodents, Elephants, Gaur, Wild Buffalo, Serow, Deer, Pigs and Pangolins are seen roaming in the forests of Meghalaya. In Meghalaya we come across apes as well as monkeys and lemurs. In Meghalaya you will also come across Hoolock Gibbon, macaques and langurs, Rhesus Macaque and Assamese Macaque. The Golden Langur is a very rare species of Meghalaya and is on the verge of extinction. Among lemurs, the Slow Loris is found in Meghalaya."

Hoolock Gibbon and Golden Langur are the likely culprits if it is not something new altogether, however there are a couple bear species in that area, though nothing that is three meters tall.
posted 1 year ago
  9 tisha[Admin]
@intlibber - my goodness, you do know your stuff! an asset to the science category - what's your background?
posted 1 year ago
  10 jchiang
Excellent link intlibber
posted 1 year ago
Settlement Requested
August 19th as of 1:45:24 p.m. reports came in that the Bigfoot was a costume.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_10245944?source=rss
Major news sources:
USA Today - http://www.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2008-08-19-bigfoot-hoax_N.htm?csp=34
CNN - http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/19/bigfoot.hoax/index.html?section=cnn_latest
posted 1 year ago
Sorry, this is for the Yeti. I was talking about Bigfoot. Oops.
posted 1 year ago

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