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NFL - New York Jets @ Miami Dolphins. Who will win ATS on 09/07?

Settled as New York -2.5 points

NY 20 Miami 14

http://www.nfl.com/scores

Background:

New York Jets (0-0) at Miami Dolphins (0-0)

Who will win against the spread?

New York Jets are a 2.5 point favorite.

http://covers.usatoday.com/game-matchups/matchup.aspx?page=/data/nfl/game/g1_summary_4.html


Settlement details: As reported by a major mainstream news source.

 
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Settled

New York -2.5 points
69%
Miami +2.5 points
31%
Activity: H$6,332
Settled as New York -2.5 points on Sun 7th Sep 1:12pm PDT

Suspend date: Sun 7th Sep 10am PDT Settlement date: Sun 7th Sep 1:12pm PDTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Sun 7th Sep 10am PDT have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: New York -2.5 points: 50%, Miami +2.5 points: 50%

Action history:

Created Tue 2nd Sep 10:11am PDT by mrperfkt[Admin]
Suspended Sun 7th Sep 10am PDT : Suspend date reached
Settlement requested Sun 7th Sep 1:11pm PDT by jake: Settle as New York.

http://www.nfl.com/scores
Settled as 'New York -2.5 points' Sun 7th Sep 1:12pm PDT by mrperfkt[Admin]: NY 20 Miami 14

http://www.nfl.com/scores

Suspend date: Sun 7th Sep 10am PDT Settlement date: Sun 7th Sep 1:12pm PDTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Sun 7th Sep 10am PDT have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled
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Predictions (26)

26 predictions

12 weeks ago
letmewinplees[Power User] predicted New York -2.5 points (H$200 at 68%)
12 weeks ago
kennyk predicted New York -2.5 points (H$231 at 67%)
12 weeks ago
morgie predicted New York -2.5 points (H$20 at 67%)
12 weeks ago
codfight predicted New York -2.5 points (H$50 at 67%)
12 weeks ago
bigh165 predicted New York -2.5 points (H$50 at 66%)
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Comments (7)

  1 htlsales
I prefer a straight win or lose question. But then, I also prefer up or down market questions, as well.
posted 12 weeks ago
  2 destry[Admin]
One of the reasons for the markets using a point spread is that it allows markets to start at 50/50 and keeps markets more tempting to wager on. Take this weeks New England Patriots game against the Kansas City Chiefs, they are 16 1/2 point favorites. If we did that as a straight win/lose market the odds would have been 82 -18 in favor of New England. If enough users like the straight up markets then we can try running some of those and see how they work. Feel free to leave comments and know that alot of the markets created in week 1 are test markets to see how strong user interest is in particular questions.
posted 12 weeks ago
  3 htlsales
<<<destry said: Take this weeks New England Patriots game against the Kansas City Chiefs, they are 16 1/2 point favorites. If we did that as a straight win/lose market the odds would have been 82 -18 in favor of New England.>>>

I know, but I don't have to think as hard. :-) If I have any ideas, I'll post them,.
posted 12 weeks ago
I think the point spread is better than arbitrary chances estimated by the question creator...I think we discussed this before the superbowl... I think the argument was over whose point spread to use as the standard for question creation...
posted 12 weeks ago
  5 mrperfkt[Admin]
There was quite a bit of discussion about this and I even created a few test markets, asking for feedback. Some advantages with the point spreads: 1) in the example above (New England starting at 82%), even though New England is an obvious favorite, I often don't waste my time wagering on questions in which I risk that much more than I stand to lose...this becomes even more true after a few people have wagered on it; 2) Point spreads reduce the number of voided or problematic questions with bad starting percentages...as they can all start at 50/50. 3) The fact that they start at 50/50 seems to attract more wagers on both sides. 4) I think the point spreads make the questions more challenging. Many people would pick New England to win that game, but do the same number think they'll win by 16.5?

Just some thoughts and reasons for going this way with these questions. Comments and feedback for improvement are welcome.
posted 12 weeks ago
Many people would pick New England to win that game, but do the same number think they'll win by 16.5?

Heh ... I read an article sometime last year, about "Why Las Vegas Hates the Patriots"... as I recall, although New England was consistently winning, Vegas sports books were consistently losing because the Patriots didn't hit the point spread. Guess the only way a New England fan could win a bet in Vegas was to bet against them!

Ideally, point-spread questions on HD would have the vig backed out ;-)
posted 12 weeks ago
Found the article: "Odds are Vegas not pleased"

"...Patriots' 2-7 record vs. the spread in their last nine games. [last season]

"Actually, the Patriots all season long have been a thorn in our side," Jay Kornegay, executive director of the race and sports book at the Las Vegas Hilton, said. "It's a team we just cannot figure out. We took it in the shorts for pretty much two-thirds of the season."

<http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/01/24/odds_are_vegas_not_pleased/?page=1>
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posted 12 weeks ago

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