
Will hurricane Ike threaten New Orleans?
Ike enters the Gulf of Mexico and makes landfall at Galveston, which is a touch over 200m from New Orleans
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080911/ts_nm/storm_ike_dc
Background:>
This question asks to what extent this is likely. I have placed a few different broad responses that I hope are complete, and will identify various outcomes that I hope fully cover what Ike may do, with landfall being the simplest word to describe how a storm approaches land.
URRICANE IKE DISCUSSION NUMBER 28
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092008
1100 PM EDT SUN SEP 07 2008
SATELLITE AND CUBAN RADAR OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT IKE MADE
LANDFALL AROUND 0145 UTC NEAR CABO LUCRECIA. SATELLITE MICROWAVE
DATA SUGGESTED THAT AN EYEWALL REPLACEMENT OCCURRED SHORTLY BEFORE
LANDFALL BUT IMAGES FROM THE GRAN PIEDRA RADAR IN CUBA SUGGESTED
THAT THE INNER EYEWALL WITH A DIAMETER OF ABOUT 20 N MI WAS STILL
INTACT AS THE CENTER CROSSED THE COAST. SFMR AND DROPSONDE
OBSERVATIONS FROM A NOAA RESEARCH AIRCRAFT MISSION INDICATE THAT
IKE PROBABLY RE-STRENGTHENED TO 110-115 KT BEFORE LANDFALL IN
EASTERN CUBA. REGARDLESS...WEAKENING IS NOW EXPECTED AS THE CENTER
MOVES OVER THE LANDMASS OF CUBA. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST
SHOWS LESS WEAKENING THAN INDICATED BY THE DECAY SHIPS MODEL...TO
ALLOW FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CENTER EMERGING OVER WATER SOONER
THAN EXPECTED. ONCE IKE MOVES INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO...THE
COMBINATION OF WARM WATERS AND FAIRLY WEAK VERTICAL SHEAR SHOULD
RESULT IN STRENGTHENING....HOWEVER THERE IS GREAT UNCERTAINTY AS TO
HOW MUCH THE HURRICANE WILL INTENSIFY IN 3 TO 5 DAYS.
INITIAL MOTION IS WESTWARD OR 270/11. NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES HAVE
BEEN MADE TO THE TRACK FORECAST OR TO THE FORECAST REASONING. THE
STEERING CURRENT ASSOCIATED WITH A DEEP-LAYER RIDGE TO THE NORTH
AND NORTHEAST OF IKE IS EXPECTED TO CAUSE THE TRACK TO GRADUALLY
BEND TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO...AND THE
TRACK MODELS ARE FAIRLY WELL CLUSTERED ON A TRACK ALONG MUCH OF
CUBA. LATER IN THE FORECAST PERIOD...AFTER IKE IS PREDICTED TO
MOVE INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO...SOME OF THE DYNAMICAL MODELS SHOW A
WEAKNESS IN THE RIDGE THAT COULD TURN THE HURRICANE MORE NORTHWARD.
HOWEVER A NUMBER OF MODELS DO NOT SHOW MUCH OF A WEAKNESS OR A
TURN. SUFFICE TO SAY THAT IT IS SIMPLY TOO EARLY TO SAY WHAT
PORTION OF THE GULF COAST WILL ULTIMATELY BE AFFECTED BY IKE.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INITIAL 08/0300Z 21.1N 75.8W 105 KT
12HR VT 08/1200Z 21.4N 77.6W 90 KT...INLAND
24HR VT 09/0000Z 22.1N 79.9W 80 KT...INLAND
36HR VT 09/1200Z 22.8N 81.7W 70 KT...INLAND
48HR VT 10/0000Z 23.6N 83.5W 80 KT...OVER WATER
72HR VT 11/0000Z 25.0N 86.4W 90 KT
96HR VT 12/0000Z 26.5N 89.0W 100 KT
120HR VT 13/0000Z 28.0N 92.0W 100 KT
Settlement details:
in question outcomes, NO stands for new orleans. m for miles. As reported by a major mainstream news source.
Settled
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Ike does not enter gulf of mexico |
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ike enters gulf ; landfall >200 m from NO |
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ike enters gulf; landfall<=200 m from NO |
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Suspend date: Fri 12th Sep 12:59am PDT Settlement date: Sat 13th Sep 5:49am PDTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Fri 12th Sep 12:59am PDT have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled
Initial likelihoods: Ike does not enter gulf of mexico: 40%, ike enters gulf ; landfall >200 m from NO : 40%, ike enters gulf; landfall<=200 m from NO: 20%
Action history:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080911/ts_nm/storm_ike_dc
Suspend date: Fri 12th Sep 12:59am PDT Settlement date: Sat 13th Sep 5:49am PDTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Fri 12th Sep 12:59am PDT have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled
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I hope for the people of NO that they do not get much of a hit, and also do not have to evacuate again.. Even that would be terrible, and they likely would not be so willing to do so..
not that I agree with the prediction.. Those interested in this question might like a few minutes (not the whole thing)..
Texas/Louisiana border...so if it DOES make landfall in
Texas, then it will settle as the >200 mile option...sorry
for our Texas friends...
I thought the 50 mile question which was earlier introduced when gustav was aimed at NO was very narrow. I was hoping to at least have a 50-50 chance (if it entered gulf), so there would be some guessing going on.. It looked close for awhile!!!! So 200 miles was good. I didnt choose it because of its closeness to texas. It just worked out that way. I never lived there, so I don't even know the distances that well...
good job of dividing the Gulf COast into three zones.
A future hurricane question could divide the Gulf Coast into
three zones, one for those areas 201 mile or most to the east
the other 20001 miles or more to the west, and then one 200
miles either side of Nawlins...
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