
What will be the result of Monday's Gallup Presidential Poll?
Obama +8
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110788/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Maintains-8Point-Lead.aspx
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Note: Gallup polls are the result of a 3 day rolling average so the poll released on Monday will be based on surveys taken Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
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http://www.gallup.com/tag/Gallup%2bDaily.aspx
posted near 1300 on Monday September 29.
If no poll is posted that day for some reason, will be the next released gallup daily poll.
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Obama leads by 9 points or more |
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Obama leads by 6,7 or 8 points |
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Obama leads by 3,4, or 5 points |
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Statistical Tie +/- 2 points |
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McCain leads by 3,4, or 5 points |
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McCain leads by 6,7, or 8 points |
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McCain leads by 9 points or more |
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Suspend date: Mon 29th Sep 9:30am PDT Settlement date: Mon 29th Sep 11:45am PDTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 29th Sep 9:30am PDT have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled
Initial likelihoods: Obama leads by 9 points or more: 10%, Obama leads by 6,7 or 8 points: 23%, Obama leads by 3,4, or 5 points: 35%, Statistical Tie +/- 2 points: 23%, McCain leads by 3,4, or 5 points: 6%, McCain leads by 6,7, or 8 points: 2%, McCain leads by 9 points or more: 1%
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are they biased? or use different areas of the country?
thx, ken
others are obviously biased and show obama gaining as much as 9 points in one week sometimes. Those are usually from the TV news corporations and there is some good info:
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I'm Pretty Sure One of These Michigan Polls Is Way Off
Depending on which pollster you listen to, Obama either leads in Michigan by 10 percent or he's tied with McCain.
I note that the EPIC-MRA poll, which has Obama up 10, is a sample of 406 "people." (This would be a gain of 9 points for Obama in a week from the past poll by this group.)
Which is interesting, because it would appear we're not talking about likely voters, or even registered voters, or even adults. Just whoever answered the phone. I suppose we should be thankful that they filtered out pets. ("Four percent of respondents answered, 'Woof.'")
Mark Halperin gives us the results of the NBC News poll in the minimalist format of Ernest Hemingway: "NBC News Michigan numbers: Obama 46, McCain 46 Dates conducted: 18-23. Error margin: 4 points."
"The state was tied and that was all. Then we went to the bar and has some wine."
The guys at RCP are my favorite poll-watchers, but they include both in their rolling average of the state. If you decide the EPIC-MRA numbers are garbage, and you throw them out, Obama's lead in the state drops from 4.5 percent to 3.25 percent.
There are a number of reasons that the poll numbers differ, some are due to sampling bias as mentioned above, but not all. Here are just a few of the reasons:
1) The dates that the questions were asked could differ. Even if they overlap in time-frame, the numbers from a rolling poll conducted over three days such as Gallup will be more volatile than those conducted over an entire week...than those conducted over an entire month....etc.
2) Some polls are referring to registered voters, and some are referring to likely voters which changes the results...usually "likely voters" polls scew toward the Republican candidate since they are a more reliable voting block. By the way, robamichael, I'm not sure which news organization reported that poll as using 406 "people" as the sample, but it did, in fact, question "likely voters" (As reported in the Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080925/POLITICS01/809250409/1409/METRO) That said, there is a 4.9 percent margin of error on that poll, so you are correct that people shouldn't put a lot of stock in that 10-point lead.
3) The sample size can affect the reliability: Gallup questions atleast 1,000 people per day for its Gallup Daily poll (or atleast 3,000 people). This sample would probably be more representative of the general population than one with a sample size of say, 406 as the one cited above by robamichel (EXCEPT that the one cited above is for Michigan only, so the population being represented is much smaller making the smaller sample size more appropriate). The margin of error is meant to mitigate some of that bias, with smaller relative sample sizes leading to higher margins of error. However, most people don't pay much attention to the margin of error.
4) The polls collect phone numbers for their "random samples" in different ways which can sometimes scew the results. For example, I just read that the Pew Research Group and AP-Ipsos include cell phone numbers in the list that they use to generate their sample, but most organizations do not due to the expense involved in it. As more and more people are now using cell phones as their only phone line, this tends to scew the results to the older population since it is younger people who tend to shun land lines.
There are a number of other reasons, but that atleast covers some of the big ones. I hope that helps.
Here is a link to one of the news articles that carried that AP story:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/07/america/NA_POL_US_Poll_Fraud.php
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