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Will it be determined that a Iranian ship overtaken by pirates contains chemical weapons?
Settled as No
The ship reached Holland and was inspected by authorities there and given a clean bill of health.
http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/hijacked-iranian-bulker-berths-at-rotterdam/20017590404.htm
Background:
Somali pirates are likely having regrets after hijacking an Iranian ship.
Within days of overtaking the MV Iran Deyanat some pirates have suffered from hair loss, skin burns and even died.
The ships cargo was declared as 'minerals' and 'industrial chemicals'.
Some officials negotiating its release are convinced it is containing small arms and chemical weapons and was destined to Somalia's Islamist rebels.
Original SA Sunday Times article: http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953
More recent Fox article: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430681,00.html
If no reports of chemical weapons are made before the new year this question will settle as 'No' in January.
Category editor note: I know some people are having problems getting the Times (SA) article. Here is a Somali site that basically repeats that article: http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3 Also, a blog post link on the topic.
Clarification: As said in comment #4, if it is reported that chemicals "intended to be used for chemical weaponry" are found, this will also count toward settling as Yes. Also, for the purpose of this question, we will include nuclear material intended for weapon use as falling under "containing chemical weapons".
Within days of overtaking the MV Iran Deyanat some pirates have suffered from hair loss, skin burns and even died.
The ships cargo was declared as 'minerals' and 'industrial chemicals'.
Some officials negotiating its release are convinced it is containing small arms and chemical weapons and was destined to Somalia's Islamist rebels.
Original SA Sunday Times article: http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953
More recent Fox article: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430681,00.html
If no reports of chemical weapons are made before the new year this question will settle as 'No' in January.
Category editor note: I know some people are having problems getting the Times (SA) article. Here is a Somali site that basically repeats that article: http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3 Also, a blog post link on the topic.
Clarification: As said in comment #4, if it is reported that chemicals "intended to be used for chemical weaponry" are found, this will also count toward settling as Yes. Also, for the purpose of this question, we will include nuclear material intended for weapon use as falling under "containing chemical weapons".
Settlement details:
As reported by a major mainstream news source. If no reports of chemical weapons are made before the new year this question will settle as 'No' in January.
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Activity: H$12,598
Settled as No on Fri 14th Nov 4:55pm PST
Suspend date: Wed 31st Dec 11:59pm PST (5 weeks to go) Settlement date: Fri 14th Nov 4:55pm PST
Initial likelihoods: Yes: 50%
Action history:
Created Sat 27th Sep 5:21pm PDT by mork
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Changed Question text Sat 27th Sep 5:36pm PDT by mork: show details
mork: show details ... that
Iranian
ship
overtaken
by
pirates
is
containing
chemical
weapons?
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infernalmachine: show details ... Somali
pirates
are
likely
having
regrets
after
hijacking
an
Iranian
... ship.
<br/>ship.<br/>
<br/>
Within
days
of
overtaking
the
MV
Iran
Deyanat
some
pirates
have
suffered
from
hair
loss,
skin
burns
and
even
... died.
<br/>died.<br/>
<br/>
The
ships
cargo
was
declared
as
'minerals'
and
'industrial
... chemicals'.
<br/>chemicals'.<br/>
<br/>
Some
officials
negotiating
it's
release
are
convinced
it
is
containing
small
arms
and
chemical
weapons
and
was
destined
to
... Somalia’sSomalia’s
Islamist
... rebels.
<br/>rebels.<br/>
<br/>
Related
article:
<a
... href='http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953'>http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a>
<br/>href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a><br/>
<br/>
If
no
reports
of
chemical
weapons
are
made
before
the
new
year
this
question
will
settle
as
'No'
in
... January.January.<br/>
<br/>
<Category
editor
note:</b>
I
know
some
people
are
having
problems
getting
the
Times
(SA)
article.
Here
is
a
Somali
site
that
basically
repeats
that
article:
http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3<br/>
Also,
in
the
comments
I
have
a
blog
post
link
on
the
topic.
(I
will
see
if
I
can
make
a
pdf
of
the
original
article
available
soon.)
Changed Description Sun 28th Sep 4:31pm PDT by infernalmachine: show details
infernalmachine: show details ... Somali
pirates
are
likely
having
regrets
after
hijacking
an
Iranian
... ship.<br/>ship.
<br/>
<br/>
Within
days
of
overtaking
the
MV
Iran
Deyanat
some
pirates
have
suffered
from
hair
loss,
skin
burns
and
even
... died.<br/>died.
<br/>
<br/>
The
ships
cargo
was
declared
as
'minerals'
and
'industrial
... chemicals'.<br/>chemicals'.
<br/>
<br/>
Some
officials
negotiating
it's
release
are
convinced
it
is
... arms
and
chemical
weapons
and
was
destined
to
Somalia’s
Islamist
... rebels.<br/>rebels.
<br/>
<br/>
Related
article:
<a
... href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a><br/>href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a>
<br/>
<br/>
If
no
reports
of
chemical
weapons
are
made
before
the
new
year
this
question
will
settle
as
'No'
in
... January.<br/>January.
<br/>
... <Category<br/>
<b>Category
editor
note:</b>
I
know
some
people
are
having
problems
getting
... Here
is
a
Somali
site
that
basically
repeats
that
article:
... http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3<br/><a
href="http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3">http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3</a>
<br/>
Also,
in
the
comments
I
have
a
blog
post
link
Changed Description Mon 29th Sep 2:05pm PDT by infernalmachine: show details
infernalmachine: show details ... Somali
pirates
are
likely
having
regrets
after
hijacking
an
Iranian
... ship.
<br/>ship.<br/>
<br/>
Within
days
of
overtaking
the
MV
Iran
Deyanat
some
pirates
have
suffered
from
hair
loss,
skin
burns
and
even
... died.
<br/>died.<br/>
<br/>
The
ships
cargo
was
declared
as
'minerals'
and
'industrial
... chemicals'.
<br/>chemicals'.<br/>
<br/>
Some
officials
negotiating
it's
release
are
convinced
it
is
containing
small
arms
and
chemical
weapons
and
was
destined
to
... Somalia’sSomalia’s
Islamist
... rebels.
<br/>rebels.<br/>
<br/>
Related
article:
<a
... href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a>
<br/>href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a><br/>
<br/>
If
no
reports
of
chemical
weapons
are
made
before
the
new
year
this
question
will
settle
as
'No'
in
... January.
<br/>January.<br/>
<br/>
<b>Category
editor
note:</b>
I
know
some
people
are
having
... is
a
Somali
site
that
basically
repeats
that
article:
<a
... href="http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3">http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3</a>
<br/>href="http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3">http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3</a>
Also,
in
... the
commentscomment
#2
I
have
a
blog
post
link
on
the
topic.
... (I
will
see<br/>
<br/>
<b>Clarification:</b>
As
said
in
comment
#4,
if
... I
can
make
a
pdf
ofit
is
reported
that
chemicals
"intended
to
be
used
for
chemical
weaponry"
are
found,
this
will
also
count
toward
settling
as
Yes.
Also,
for
the
... original
article
available
soon.)purpose
of
this
question,
we
will
include
nuclear
material
intended
for
weapon
use
as
falling
under
"containing
chemical
weapons".
Changed Question text Tue 30th Sep 10:10am PDT by 
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ryanj: show details ... Will
it
be
determined
that
a
Iranian
ship
overtaken
by
pirates
... is
containingcontains
chemical
weapons?
Changed Description Tue 30th Sep 10:10am PDT by ryanj: show details
ryanj: show details ... containing
small
arms
and
chemical
weapons
and
was
destined
to
... Somalia’sSomalia’s
Islamist
rebels.<br/>
<br/>
Related
article:
<a
href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a><br/>
<br/>
If
no
... is
a
Somali
site
that
basically
repeats
that
article:
<a
... href="http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3">http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3</a>href="http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3">http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3</a>
Also,
in
comment
#2
I
have
a
blog
post
link
Changed Description Wed 1st Oct 3:01am PDT by 
tomg: show details
tomg: show details ... Somali
pirates
are
likely
having
regrets
after
hijacking
an
Iranian
... ship.<br/>ship.
<br/>
<br/>
Within
days
of
overtaking
the
MV
Iran
Deyanat
some
pirates
have
suffered
from
hair
loss,
skin
burns
and
even
... died.<br/>died.
<br/>
<br/>
The
ships
cargo
was
declared
as
'minerals'
and
'industrial
... chemicals'.<br/>chemicals'.
<br/>
<br/>
Some
officials
negotiating
it's
release
are
convinced
it
is
containing
small
arms
and
chemical
weapons
and
was
destined
to
... Somalia’sSomalia's
Islamist
... rebels.<br/>rebels.
<br/>
<br/>
Related
article:
<a
... href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a><br/>href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a>
<br/>
<br/>
If
no
reports
of
chemical
weapons
are
made
before
the
new
year
this
question
will
settle
as
'No'
in
... January.<br/>January.
<br/>
<br/>
<b>Category
editor
note:</b>
I
know
some
people
are
having
Changed Description Wed 1st Oct 11:10pm PDT by infernalmachine: show details
infernalmachine: show details ... Somali
pirates
are
likely
having
regrets
after
hijacking
an
Iranian
... ship.
<br/>ship.<br/>
<br/>
Within
days
of
overtaking
the
MV
Iran
Deyanat
some
pirates
have
suffered
from
hair
loss,
skin
burns
and
even
... died.
<br/>died.<br/>
<br/>
The
ships
cargo
was
declared
as
'minerals'
and
'industrial
... chemicals'.
<br/>chemicals'.<br/>
<br/>
Some
officials
negotiating
it's
release
are
convinced
it
is
... arms
and
chemical
weapons
and
was
destined
to
Somalia's
Islamist
... rebels.rebels.<br/>
<br/>
... <br/>
RelatedOriginal
SA
Sunday
Times
article:
<a
... href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a>
<br/>href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a><br/>
<br/>
More
recent
Fox
article:
<a
href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430681,00.html">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430681,00.html</a><br/>
If
no
reports
of
chemical
weapons
are
made
before
the
new
year
this
question
will
settle
as
'No'
in
... January.
<br/>January.<br/>
<br/>
<b>Category
editor
note:</b>
I
know
some
people
are
having
... is
a
Somali
site
that
basically
repeats
that
article:
<a
... href="http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3">http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3</a>href="http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3">http://www.mareeg.com/fidsan.php?sid=8054&tirsan=3</a>
Also,
... in
comment
#2
I
have
a<a
href="http://therightperspective.com/wordpress/?p=128">a
blog
post
link
on
the
... topic.topic</a>.
<br/>
<br/>
<b>Clarification:</b>
As
said
in
comment
#4,
if
it
Changed Description Wed 1st Oct 11:11pm PDT by infernalmachine: show details
infernalmachine: show details ... article:
<a
href="http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953">http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/Article.aspx?id=851953</a><br/>
<br/>
More
recent
Fox
article:
<a
href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430681,00.html">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,430681,00.html</a><br/>
<br/>
If
no
reports
of
chemical
weapons
are
made
before
the
Changed Description Wed 1st Oct 11:12pm PDT by infernalmachine: show details
infernalmachine: show details ... declared
as
'minerals'
and
'industrial
chemicals'.<br/>
<br/>
Some
officials
negotiating
... it'sits
release
are
convinced
it
is
containing
small
arms
and
chemical
Suspended Fri 14th Nov 4:28pm PST by mork: Suspended pending settlement
mork: Suspended pending settlement
Settlement requested Fri 14th Nov 4:28pm PST by mork: No hazardous substances were found and the paperwork was in order, a port spokesman said. http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/hijacked-iranian-bulker-berths-at-rotterdam/20017590404.htm (market suspended)
mork: No hazardous substances were found and the paperwork was in order, a port spokesman said. http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/hijacked-iranian-bulker-berths-at-rotterdam/20017590404.htm (market suspended)
Settled as 'No' Fri 14th Nov 4:55pm PST by infernalmachine: The ship reached Holland and was inspected by authorities there and given a clean bill of health.
http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/hijacked-iranian-bulker-berths-at-rotterdam/20017590404.htm
infernalmachine: The ship reached Holland and was inspected by authorities there and given a clean bill of health.
http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/hijacked-iranian-bulker-berths-at-rotterdam/20017590404.htm
Suspend date: Wed 31st Dec 11:59pm PST (5 weeks to go) Settlement date: Fri 14th Nov 4:55pm PST
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Mail Online UK 1 week ago
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Itar Tass 3 weeks ago
NAIROBI, October 31 (Itar-Tass) -- The owner of the Ukrainian ship Faina and an intermediary are doing their best to agree with Somali pirates on the release of the ship and the crew, the ship owner said on Friday. ?Negotiations are
http://therightperspective.com/wordpress/?p=128
This question will settle as 'yes' if chemicals are found on board and it is reported that they were intended to be used for chemical weaponry (This includes nuclear material).
"
Although American intelligence and government sources are maintaining a strictly observed silence, the same does not apply to the Russians and so it is that we learn the real story of the MV Iran Deyanat. She was an enormous floating dirty bomb, intended to detonate after exiting the Suez Canal at the eastern end of the Mediterranean and in proximity to the coastal cities of Israel. The entire cargo of radioactive sand, obtained by Iran from China (the latter buys desperately needed oil from the former) and sealed in containers which, when the charges on the ship are set off after the crew took to the boats, will be blasted high into the air where prevailing winds will push the highly dangerous and radioactive cloud ashore."
Thanks for the info!
"Unconventional Delivery Systems" pose the greatest threat - because they are so hard to detect.
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/news/view/20081012-165997/2-more-RP-seamen-freed-by-pirates
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20081010-165712/20-more-Filipino-seamen-freed
If the dirty bomb story is true those pirates should all be sent to Israel for a huge feast with speeches, medals, awards – and then shot!
I find it weird that MSM isn't reporting more about this. If the dirty bomb story is true I suppose there is some motivation to avoid turning the situation into a pressure cooker lest they hit the button where it sits.
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