
Will the Suisse people vote for or against the initiative to decriminalise cannabis consumption?
"Gegen die Cannabis-Liberalisierung sprachen sich 63,2 Prozent der Stimmbürger aus", which essentially means 63.2% voted against decriminalization. So only 36.8% voted YES.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hMffrzyZhtn17vJzsDfqE4AJRlvg
http://www.20min.ch/news/dossier/abstimmresultat/story/Volk-sagt-zweimal-Ja-und-dreimal-Nein-25223750
http://www.drs.ch/www/de/drs/themen/news/schweiz/ahv-hanf-und-verbandsinitiative-gescheitert/89695.101484.resultate-hanf-initiative.html
Background:>
Art. 105a (new) Hemp (excerpt)
1. Consumption of psychoactive substances of the hemp plant as well as their possession and acquisition for personal requirements are exempt from punishment.
2. The cultivation of psychoactive hemp for personal requirements is exempt from punishment.
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Vote for the initiative takes place on Sunday, 29th November, 2008.
PROS (German)
http://www.hanfinitiative.ch/
CONS (German)
http://www.hanfinitiative-nein.ch/
Government statement:
Interior Minister Pascal Couchepin says Switzerland could be in violation of international rules if voters in November approved a proposal to decriminalise cannabis consumption.
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/internal_affairs/Government_warns_against_cannabis_legalisation.html?siteSect=1511&sid=9784861&rss=true&ty=st
Settlement details:
As reported by a major mainstream news source.
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60% to less than 70% YES votes |
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50% to less than 60% YES votes |
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40% to less than 50% YES votes |
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30% to less than 40% YES votes |
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less than 30% YES votes |
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Suspend date: Sat 29th Nov 2008 1:59pm PST Settlement date: Sun 30th Nov 2008 1:49pm PSTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Sat 29th Nov 2008 1:59pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled
Initial likelihoods: 70% or more YES votes: 3%, 60% to less than 70% YES votes: 15%, 50% to less than 60% YES votes: 32%, 40% to less than 50% YES votes: 32%, 30% to less than 40% YES votes: 15%, less than 30% YES votes: 3%
Action history:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hMffrzyZhtn17vJzsDfqE4AJRlvg
63.2% as reported here:
http://www.20min.ch/news/dossier/abstimmresultat/story/Volk-sagt-zweimal-Ja-und-dreimal-Nein-25223750
makes 36.8% Yes votes
http://www.drs.ch/www/de/drs/themen/news/schweiz/ahv-hanf-und-verbandsinitiative-gescheitert/89695.101484.resultate-hanf-initiative.html
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hMffrzyZhtn17vJzsDfqE4AJRlvg
http://www.20min.ch/news/dossier/abstimmresultat/story/Volk-sagt-zweimal-Ja-und-dreimal-Nein-25223750
http://www.drs.ch/www/de/drs/themen/news/schweiz/ahv-hanf-und-verbandsinitiative-gescheitert/89695.101484.resultate-hanf-initiative.html
Suspend date: Sat 29th Nov 2008 1:59pm PST Settlement date: Sun 30th Nov 2008 1:49pm PSTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Sat 29th Nov 2008 1:59pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled
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While I agree with you that alcohol and alcoholics are worse than pot and potheads, it would be a terrible idea to reinstitute prohibition. In any economic downturn there are always three industries that never take a hit: tobacco, sex, and alcohol. The last time we had prohibition many people believe it helped bring on the great depression. There are already too many parallels being drawn between now and 1929.
Little known fact - I will have 18 years of sobriety early in November. I have very strong opinions on this subject.
I don't think prohibition on alcohol would bring on a financial depression, but it would certain make for a LOT of pissed off people. Generally, I am not in favor of any type of prohibition, whether it be alcohol, pot, tobacco or certain objectionable on-air hosts like Keith Olbermann. But, if I were President, I would gladly swap pot for booze. I believe the restaurant lobby would support me fully on this issue.
I understand that drug use can sometimes result in unfortunate consequences, but as a libertarian I find it grossly invasive to have someone over my shoulder telling me what I am allowed to do to myself. There is no true liberty in a nanny state. The only way to real tool to eliminate social problems is culture; laws are merely unthoughtful shortcuts.
this is a solely Suisse question, you know.
@mork The prohibition was a failure and if we tried it again it would fail again. The truth of the matter is, there isnt a country in the world that has enough man power and money power to be able to pull that off for a single country.
do you know how many marriages are tolerated because of booze? do you want the divorce rates to go beyond 75%????????? LOL
With that said, I respect all views on the matter. I just don't believe regulation by law is ever the answer. Only cultural movements and ideals can push real progress. In fact I would say that the general attitude towards drugs could be moving to the safer side of the pool at a faster rate if these laws weren't in place. Society needs to prove a truth, not be forced into a preemptive assumption.
so, all others than "we" - ie. those who do not agree with you - are insane?
@potatp The theory that it is not addictive is outdated. Take a look at this excerpt from a study on the subject
"demonstrate disturbing similarities between marijuana's effects on the brain and those produced by highly addictive drugs such as cocaine and heroin"
Soft drugs like pot serve in Europe more as an entry in a crime-career than in a career of drug abuse. I barely know anyone (in my age) who hasn't been consuming marijuana more or less regularly, sofar not any problem (I am 41) - but I know of many who botched their career in early age by being caught dealing pot.
My only concern is: What should these small time crooks do if we are not buying the stuff from them anymore? Will we replace a harmless kind of crime by worse ones? Most of the small street dealers do the job to get themselves fancy sneakers and jeans - will they get the idea to rob people when deprived by this stream of revenue?
Pot is emotionally addictive; but bluntly anything can be emotionally addictive...some people are addicted to sex, food, sugar, sex, gambling, sex, internet junkies, sex, But that does not mean it should be banned..or criminalized....
I have smoked pot for a long time and truth be told, my brain cells are working quite,
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