
How many states will be "Red" in the CNN polling map, October 24?
There are 20 red states as of update on Oct 24th.
Background:>
Now that Barack Obama seems to have 'locked' a few swing states, McCain has moved the fight to places where he can win. North Carolina, a state which has been touted as leaning democrat for the first time since Jimmy Carter, is still a toss-up, while Florida, which has one of the highest EV counts, re-entered toss-up status this week. Indiana, which seemed to be moving closer to Obama, is now a solid red, while Ohio and Missouri still hold thin McCain leads.
Links:
http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=electiontrackercandidatqr8.png (October 18 screenshot)
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/polling
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
http://www.pollster.com/
Note: This question was revised to explicitly refer to the CNN polling Election Tracker, and not the EC calculator.
Settlement details:
As reported at http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/polling next Friday. If the map is not updated that day, any update after Friday counts for settlement.
Settled
| Map stays the same (20) |
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| -1 or -2 change to toss-up/Blue (Obama) |
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| -3 or -4 change to toss-up/Blue (Obama) |
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| -5 or -6 change to toss-up/Blue (Obama) |
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| +1 or +2 change to Red (McCain) |
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| +3 or +4 change to Red (McCain) |
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| +5 or +6 change to Red (McCain) |
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| More than 7 states change color - 13 or 27 Red |
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Suspend date: Fri 24th Oct 2008 2am PDT Settlement date: Fri 24th Oct 2008 10:25am PDTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Fri 24th Oct 2008 2am PDT have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled
Initial likelihoods: Map stays the same (20): 15%, -1 or -2 change to toss-up/Blue (Obama): 25%, -3 or -4 change to toss-up/Blue (Obama): 25%, -5 or -6 change to toss-up/Blue (Obama): 15%, +1 or +2 change to Red (McCain): 5%, +3 or +4 change to Red (McCain): 5%, +5 or +6 change to Red (McCain): 5%, More than 7 states change color - 13 or 27 Red: 5%
Action history:
"Map stays the same"
Although not the same per se, the number remains constant at 20.
Suspend date: Fri 24th Oct 2008 2am PDT Settlement date: Fri 24th Oct 2008 10:25am PDTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Fri 24th Oct 2008 2am PDT have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled
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I am going to assume the picture is correct and the text is a typo, since its impossible for a screenshot of CNN to be a "typo." =)
This has major implications on the settlement of this prediction, if 19 or 20 is the baseline.
As of today (Wed 22nd), McCain has 20, which is an increase of one from the picture.
According to aggregate data from fivethirtyeight.com, there is ZERO CHANCE that McCain could even tilt the following states to "lean McCain" by the close of this prediction on the 24th: Florida, Ohio, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina. Only North Dakota has a chance, and since polling is so infrequent there, it really is an unknown by the 24th.
That means, barring another state falling out of red as it stands today, it will definitely end at +1 or +2 McCain, which is the same prediction. Let the money flow in.
Note: This question was revised to explicitly refer to the CNN polling Election Tracker.
Still stand by my prediction and other stats, though - McCain is still on an increase of one with not much wiggle room to lose a current red or gain a current blue.
+1/+2 McCain looks like a total lock.
The "Big Ten" polls came out in a lot of Midwest states, and had Obama over 10% in all the Midwest including Indiana, which was quite a shocker. He still maintains solid leads in all of his "Kerry plus Iowa and New Mexico 264 block"
Other polls had Obama up in North Dakota, Montana, Missouri, North Carolina, Nevada - though all in the low single digits and under or close to the margin of error.
I take this question to mean, that the latest we will wait for an update on this map is midnight on Friday, and if there is no update, that is the map we use for settlement.
Just something anecdotal, I live in Indiana, which is a conservative state (not as many right wing nuts as like Alabama or Utah, but plenty), and that recent "Big Ten" poll that puts Obama up by 10% seems incredible. Again, anecdotally, I would say McCain would get 6 out of 10 of the votes of people I interact with and know. Although of my parents, who both stupidly voted for DarthCheney/Monkeyboyjr, my dad will be voting democratic for the first time since the 70s and my mom is not voting for the first time she can remember. Thats a loss of 2 Bush/McCain stalwart voters, and a gain of one for Obama. I wonder if there is a trend like that elsewhere in the state.
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