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Will Lance be our Hero or the Villain after all?

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Background: Lance moved from triathlons to professional cycling back in the mid 90's. Just as his career began to pick up, he was diagnosed with testicular cancer with metastasis to the brain and lungs and was fighting for his life. In 1999, he was fired by his racing team but US Postal gave the lean, recovering Lance a try. Seven years, three teams and seven Tour de France victories later, the sport had its first seven time consecutive winner and a new wider following. The French accused Lance of cheating all seven years. There was an investigation in 1999 with an independent Danish investigator announcing that there was no indications of cheating or doping and that all continued accusations were proof of poor sportsmanship and outright persecution. There have continued to be grumblings of dissent particularly from the French Racing Authorities ever since. There have been very public examples of cheating most notably: Astana's Vinokovrov, Saunier Duval's Riccardo Ricco, and American Floyd Landis. Some say that this intense, demanding sport is only possible to those who do the best pharmaceuticals. Other's, like former user/now poster boy for clean living, David Millar, say American Christian Vande Veldre is an example of clean riding success and suggest American teams Garmin-Chipolte and Team Columbia as examples of the right philosophy in professional racing.

Lance says that his return to this sport, and the Tour de France in particular, is to bring attention to cancer worldwide. The French have renewed their quest to hound him with accusations of doping. They have repeatedly requested that he allow his frozen 1999 specimens to be retested using new, far more accurate tests. Armstrong refuses, citing the legal judgments of the time. The French smugly say that if he competes, he will finally be catch because drug testing is much more aggressive and accurate than it was even one year ago. Lance continues to insist that he has never cheated or doped. So, the bottom line is: Between the end of October, 2008 and the first of November 2009---one year, will Lance Armstrong be found guilty of cheating, doping, drug use on any race in any year of his career? Will he be the Hero we hope he is or the Villain the French Racing Authorities insist that he is?

-- question by glenda78748

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source.To be proven a villain, he will have to be reported guilty of doping by an independent news source. If one specimen tests positive and one tests negative, the hero/villain decision will be based on the final outcome of the investigation. If the final outcome has not been decided within the time specified, the outcome will be hero as villain has not been proven.

 
Forecast history %
Hero - no doping
97%
Villan - found guilty of doping
3%
Predictions on this question are temporarily suspended

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Initial likelihoods: Hero - no doping: 65%, Villan - found guilty of doping: 35%

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Created Wed 22nd Oct 2008 2:59pm PST by jenniandboys[Admin]
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Predictions (78)

3 weeks ago
rant_zone predicted Villan - found guilty of doping (H$20 at 1%)
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p155272 predicted Villan - found guilty of doping (H$100 at 1%)
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gtown[Power User] predicted Hero - no doping (H$10,000 at 99%)
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henryrobertshaw predicted Hero - no doping (H$20 at 97%)
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gtown[Power User] predicted Hero - no doping (H$10,000 at 93%)

Comments (10)

My guess is that even if he had cheated in the past, he doesnt have to now. Hes just racing now to draw attention to cancer, back then he had to win otherwise he would have been a nobody. He could get last place in this race and still be famous whereas back then if he had gotten last place he would have been sifted aside for someone else to become famous. So test away frenchys, you aint getting lance!
posted 1 year ago
  2 padlb
As Lance Armstrong won't take part in any race in France, he will surely not be proven villain...
posted 1 year ago
He's not a hero if he doesn't get caught. He's just a cheat who hasn't got caught.
posted 1 year ago
He is innocent until proven guilty
posted 1 year ago
  6 gadget666
I think he is hiding something, or why refuse the french acess to his 1999 samples? if he is innocent, why not let them test him, then say "I told you there was nothing there", and have a good rant about persecution and poor sportsmanship?
posted 1 year ago
Depends on ones definition of doping
When a person has cancer, steroids are a rather normal course of events. I mean an inhaler is considered doping...so it would be interesting to see exactly how fine a line they draw considering lances medical history....
posted 1 year ago
Besides if he doesnt want people to test his 1999 samples he has every legal right to do so! Maybe he is smart and just wants to deny the french access to something that they have no legal right to. After all everybody hates france! Freedom fries anyone?
posted 1 year ago
Asked whether he feared he might be violently attacked on the 2009 Tour, Armstrong said: "There're directors of French teams that have encouraged people to take to the streets ... elbow to elbow. It's very emotional and tense."

Armstrong said that he had discussed his concerns, with the great Belgian cyclist Eddie Merckx. "Eddie Merckx would have won six Tours if he hadn't been punched. It happens to the best of us. Eddie broke a rib, fell over and was out of the race. I try not to think about that stuff."

How do racers protect themselves from "fans" who cause them to fall, crash, inject them with drugs, etc? If the great Merck was fouled, how safe is anyone, especially Armstrong?
posted 51 weeks ago
  10 frogchop
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30132629/
Accused of violating testing protocols, so he may not even get the chance to race.
posted 31 weeks ago

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