Created Fri 7th Nov 2008 2:53am PST by
ryanj

Who will be President Obama's Attorney General?
Settled as Eric Holder
Obama also named Washington lawyer Eric Holder as attorney general
Background:>
Background: The US Attorney General heads the Department of Justice, and acts as the Presidents supreme legal adviser. Recently scandals in the DoJ involving the Bush administration and Alberto Gonzales have tarnished the agency. The pick will have to be confirmed by the Senate.
Janet Napolitano: Current Governor of Arizona and longtime supporter of Obama from the beginning. She has been rumored to be quite alright with this possibility.
Eric Holder: Helped run Obama's vice presidential search committee, but has been host to vicious right-wing attacks in the past due to his affiliation with the Clinton White House, where he severed as Attorney General.
Hillary Clinton: Although she wasn't really in the running for VP, her name has been mentioned time and time again as a possible choice for Obama's cabinet and specifically Attorney General.
Arthur Davis: Current Democratic member of the House, and held the assistant attorney general position in Alabama.
Deval Patrick: Current Governor of Mass. and longtime friend of Obama. Deval has an accomplished legal history and his longtime friendship with Obama may mean a possible cabinet position.
Patrick Fitzgerald: Lawyer who presided over the Valarie Plame trial. Has shown a willingness to pursue things to there ultimate conclusion and is a hard well known lawyer.
James B. Comey:Currently working with Lockheed Martin but was an assistant Attorney General under Bush.
Useful Link:
New York Times article on Obama's and McCain's possible Cabinet picks
Huff Post news page on Obama's possible cabinet picks
Janet Napolitano: Current Governor of Arizona and longtime supporter of Obama from the beginning. She has been rumored to be quite alright with this possibility.
Eric Holder: Helped run Obama's vice presidential search committee, but has been host to vicious right-wing attacks in the past due to his affiliation with the Clinton White House, where he severed as Attorney General.
Hillary Clinton: Although she wasn't really in the running for VP, her name has been mentioned time and time again as a possible choice for Obama's cabinet and specifically Attorney General.
Arthur Davis: Current Democratic member of the House, and held the assistant attorney general position in Alabama.
Deval Patrick: Current Governor of Mass. and longtime friend of Obama. Deval has an accomplished legal history and his longtime friendship with Obama may mean a possible cabinet position.
Patrick Fitzgerald: Lawyer who presided over the Valarie Plame trial. Has shown a willingness to pursue things to there ultimate conclusion and is a hard well known lawyer.
James B. Comey:Currently working with Lockheed Martin but was an assistant Attorney General under Bush.
Useful Link:
New York Times article on Obama's and McCain's possible Cabinet picks
Huff Post news page on Obama's possible cabinet picks
Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source.
| Janet Napolitano |
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| Eric Holder |
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| Hillary Clinton |
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| Arthur Davis |
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| Deval Patrick |
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| James B. Comey |
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| Patrick Fitzgerald |
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| Someone Else |
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Settled as Eric Holder on Mon 1st Dec 2008 10:23am PST
- Activity: H$33,448 |
- Predictions: 74 |
Comments: 24
Suspend date: Tue 20th Jan 11:59pm PST
Settlement date: Mon 1st Dec 2008 10:23am PST
Initial likelihoods: Janet Napolitano: 20%, Eric Holder: 5%, Hillary Clinton: 5%, Arthur Davis: 5%, Deval Patrick: 15%, James B. Comey: 5%, Patrick Fitzgerald: 5%, Someone Else: 40%
Action history:
Created Fri 7th Nov 2008 2:53am PST by
ryanj
Settlement requested Tue 18th Nov 2008 2:08pm PST by
coolkraft
: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/30/eric-holder-obamas-attorn_n_137696.html
Settlement requested Wed 19th Nov 2008 7:24am PST by
rbrog77
: Justice (AG): Eric Holder CONFIRMED BY NBC NEWS
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/19/1681103.aspx
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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/19/1681103.aspx
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Settlement requested Mon 1st Dec 2008 9:28am PST by
rbrog77
: It's Holder
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27983003/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27983003/
Settled as 'Eric Holder' Mon 1st Dec 2008 10:23am PST by
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: Obama also named Washington lawyer Eric Holder as attorney general
Suspend date: Tue 20th Jan 11:59pm PST
Settlement date: Mon 1st Dec 2008 10:23am PST details
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Until an official announcement is made, this is ABSURD to suspend the question. Hubdubbers should be able to make predictions based upon whatever information is available until the suspend date is reached or an official announcement is made. Is this Hubdub policy that when a rumor or non-official announcement is made, the question is suspended?
This one might be relevant: In questions on news where initial reports are often inaccurate, questions will generally be suspended on initial reports however they will not be settled until there is a stronger consensus among news sources. If the consensus results in the question remaining open then it will be unsuspended.
Might I suggest that since initial reports are often inaccurate, they could make for more interesting movement in the percentages, and more action for players, which is stifled if the question is prematurely suspended. It seems that it would be advantageous not to suspend questions so early.
i have to agree with you. in some respects they seem to have broken there own rules?
on must never forget that Destry is above any rules being a rule unto hiself.
Good for you!
As far as being above the rules, all of the actions I take are available for public scrutiny, I have to abide by the same rules as every one else. The category editors and super users, are held to an even higher standard of play, since we have complete transparency with our predictions. The actions we take are available for everyone to see, discuss, criticize, and raise objection to.
The reason for not suspending the Secretary of State article is that there is still uncertainty about whether she will accept the position, there has been no uncertainty about the Attorney General news I have been reading. If there becomes reasonable doubt that the news has misled or wrongly reported the AG nominee then that market can be reopened.
The reason markets are suspended is to prevent people from making wagers or cashing in wagers after an outcome is likely to occur. A person who might have wagered on someone other than the potential AG, could cash out their position if the question was open, and gain money they shouldn't be able to acquire. Also others would be able to pile onto a position and drive the market substantially higher, thereby creating profits they shouldn't earn. Since we have the ability to back void predictions once we settle a market, it is helpful to have a market in suspend status so those predictions can not be closed for ill gotten gains.
If news breaks that the Secretary of State position is going to be filled by a particular individual I will suspend that market as I did the AG market, until news can be confirmed.
In your second paragraph there faults for English /English,where some of the faults lay, are in your use of z where we use s .
Quite apart from all that there was no need to CASTIGATE me on here. There are many people because of your lack of compassion have left Hubdub. But by the same token there are many that help. you just have a delight in trying to ruin the enjoyment of many;
Why not have your first paragraph challenged by the admin.
(I wonder in Australia do they have a device called a spell checker. What it does is it checks the accuracy of the words you are trying to use and alerts you to a potential misspelled word, which makes your writing very difficult to understand, and shows a lack of intelligence which I assume you possess )
and from a AdMIN to boot.
My INTELLIGENCE OR LACK OF would be at least on a par with yours and may i be so bold to say above.
Remember your involvement with epicure? i will not put it here for all to see.
Would-be attorney general Eric Holder haunted by Marc Rich pardon
Republicans say they're surprised that Barack Obama's transition team didn't gauge their feelings about the likely nominee.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-holder20-2008nov20,0,532485.story?track=rss
For someone in a position of authority to say to a member "I wonder in Australia do they have a device called a spell checker. What it does is it checks the accuracy of the words you are trying to use and alerts you to a potential misspelled word, which makes your writing very difficult to understand, and shows a lack of intelligence which I assume you possess." is inexcusable, and if this were my company would not be tolerated. It may be one thing for regular members to get into the fray, but we really expect some conflict management skills from an administrator that go beyond personal attacks. Everyone else seems to have that ability.
* Eric Holder, a former Justice Department official under the Clinton Administration, has accepted a conditional offer to become head of the Justice Department, Democratic officials said.
Holder, who served as deputy attorney general under Clinton, has been a senior legal advisor to Obama's campaign and helped vet Obama's vice presidential candidates.
Before the offer becomes official, Obama's team is seeking to determine if Holder can win Senate confirmation with broad bipartisan support.
i've seen other admins get treated like dirt and they manage to respond politely or not at all. maybe your not cut out to be an admin. no need in going over the past, but this is not the first time you have gone over the line. i've talked to serval people who had problems with you..not just in the comments. lets take this question for example. it was the only cabinet question that was suspended. you wouldn't or couldn't see where that wasn't right. see comment 8. now you decide to unsuspend it. thats what frustates me the most about you. your not consistent in the way you decide things. i was thinking about pulling a lucidstates like strike on the political catagoery to try and get some consistency out of you.
i'm willing to put all this behind me and hope other members are as well. we all need to work togeather and be more civil towards each other. i'm not claiming i'm an angel...i've over reacted more than once, it's no excuse but i'm not representing HD. ALL I WANT IS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD AND CONSISTENCY FROM THE ADMINS.
i hope your not offended by anything i just said, that wasn't my intention. just getting some things off my chest. i was asked not to harrass you in the comments and i've been trying my best not to. lets hope this is a new beginning and we don't have to re-visit it.
well put and two destry i wonder how long your apologies will last , i think if the truth be known you have read my i am leaving in article in the forum as i saying there i can prove all accusations made ......believe me i am NOT A FOOL thanks again diesel
. I am sorry for the tone and wording of the precious comment in this market (its not precious)
i think you meant previous
see even you MAY have made a mistake!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope that curios and the rest of us will accept your apology for the MANY TIMES that you have been arrogant and rude to curios, both in the comments sections and in email which he has shared with many of us. In the past few months, many of us have had to endure these untoward comments from you -- and mood swings -- with a regularity that does NOT make it pleasant to be on hubdub. Hubdub is not large enough to afford the departure of any more members due to comments like these.
You are an employee of this company and should possess adequate management skills to work pleasantly and productively with the members of this site, like all the other admins do. We respect your intelligence and capabilities, but not your moods. We are mostly a very friendly bunch...While we are opinionated and enjoy our debates IN THE COMMENTS, WHERE WE WANT THEM, we are really very easy to work with and love being on hubdub. That's why WE are here. Hopefully that will soon be the reason why YOU are here...
I am truly sorry that it was necessary for me to write this comment: it takes the fun out of hubdub for me. This is the responsibility of a senior admin, not a regular member.
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