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Will the people of Greater Manchester give the thumbs up for the proposed congestion charge?

Settled as No

Plans to use road pricing to encourage drivers out of their cars and fund major public transport schemes have been dealt a devastating blow after voters in Greater Manchester rejected a congestion charge scheme by an overwhelming majority.

The Government had gone to great lengths to encourage the city to accept road pricing, its favoured method of tackling congestion. The vote was also seen as a major test of the public's willingness to accept green taxes.

But the sheer scale of the defeat, which saw four out of every five voters reject a scheme to charge £5 a day at peak times, is likely to render the issue politically dead for the next decade.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-gives-congestion-charge-a-huge-thumbs-down-1064469.html

Background:

1.9 million residents in ten Greater Manchester boroughs have begun voting in a referendum over Manchester's congestion charge proposals. Seven of the 10 boroughs have to vote yes to give the c-charge the green light

If they vote yes: £3bn will be invested to improve public transport, partly funded by a congestion charge of up to £5 a day (beginning around 2013) for car commuters entering or leaving Manchester at peak times.

If they vote no: drivers won't have to pay a toll to enter Manchester. However, congestion won't improve and the much-publicised Metrolink tram system's 'big bang' will be drastically scaled down.


Settlement details: As reported by a major mainstream news source.

 
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Yes
24%
No
76%
Activity: H$30,165
Settled as No on Fri 12th Dec 2008 4:46pm PST

Suspend date: Thu 11th Dec 2008 3:59pm PST Settlement date: Fri 12th Dec 2008 4:46pm PSTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Thu 11th Dec 2008 3:59pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: Yes: 50%

Action history:

Created Fri 28th Nov 2008 2:30pm PST by smallape
Suspended Thu 11th Dec 2008 3:59pm PST : Suspend date reached
Settlement requested Fri 12th Dec 2008 4:35am PST by smallape: Vote was screen live on TV. A resounding 'No'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7778110.stm
Settled as 'No' Fri 12th Dec 2008 4:46pm PST by tisha[Admin]: Plans to use road pricing to encourage drivers out of their cars and fund major public transport schemes have been dealt a devastating blow after voters in Greater Manchester rejected a congestion charge scheme by an overwhelming majority.

The Government had gone to great lengths to encourage the city to accept road pricing, its favoured method of tackling congestion. The vote was also seen as a major test of the public's willingness to accept green taxes.

But the sheer scale of the defeat, which saw four out of every five voters reject a scheme to charge £5 a day at peak times, is likely to render the issue politically dead for the next decade.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-gives-congestion-charge-a-huge-thumbs-down-1064469.html

Suspend date: Thu 11th Dec 2008 3:59pm PST Settlement date: Fri 12th Dec 2008 4:46pm PSTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Thu 11th Dec 2008 3:59pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled
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Comments (7)

  1 adamw
From what I understand, the Manchester congestion charge proposals have an large outer zone (charged at £2.50 a day) and a small central one (charged at £5.00 a day); is the manchester referendum a broad "yes or no" vote, or do they have the opportunity to vote separately for the two?
posted 5 weeks ago
  2 smallape
It’s not that harsh. £2 to enter the outer ring (M60) and a further £1 to enter the inner ring between 7-9.30am, Mon-Fri. £1 to exit the inner ring and £1 to exit the outer ring between 4-6.30pm, Mon-Fri. No charge on off peak and weekends, No charge if you’re travelling in the opposite direction. The charge won’t be introduced until 80% of the public transport improvements are met.

The vote is a straight yes or no.

More about the plans: http://www.gmfuturetransport.co.uk/CongestionCharges/OurPlans/
posted 5 weeks ago
Thin end of the wedge if it's a yes.
posted 4 weeks ago
  4 pete66
smallape, any charge is too much. It's just pure old socialist redistribution of wealth. What do you think your tax disc is for? You probably don't even have a car. I live in London, and when Red Ken bought it in here he put it up by 60% from £5 to £8 in no time at all.

Our current mayor has thankfully just announced half of the zone is going, it hardly raised any cash for transport infrastructure and merely made the operator Capita (aka Crapita) a load of money. Say no to this rubbish, otherwise it will cover the whole country.

People aren't stupid.
posted 3 weeks ago
  5 smallape
53.2% turnout. Announcement is due. 'No' is favourite with several bookmakers, as much as 2/5.
posted 3 weeks ago
  6 smallape
Results are in. It's a resounding 'no'. All ten boroughs voted against the Congestion Charge by large majorities.
posted 3 weeks ago
  7 tisha[Admin]
This ended up being a really interesting result. Good question smallape
posted 3 weeks ago

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