Will Mega Church leader Rick Warren have a donut thrown at him before or on Inauguration Day?

omg i love this question roflmccao but damn the hubbiedubbie gods are gonna take this one away i just know it!

As a deity of a different color, its a pass by me. Will have to wait for the Political hubdubbie god to weigh in though. I'll go ahead and flag it so we know soon what the decision is.

Well since I got two tickets to the inauguration I am going to make sure to through a donut so I can win this market. I think 66% food is thrown is too high, I just don't see someone going through all the hassle of attending the inauguration and then throwing something at a person that was chosen by someone they support. Do we really believe secret service, park police, and the thousands of other protective services there will allow someone to get close enough to throw food at a speaker? So then do we settle based on someone throwing a donut that doesn't get anywhere close to the speaker. I am going to allow this market since it allows the possibility of him being pelted with a donut before inauguration day.

You just need a good arm to get it over the crowd. I wonder if "donut" only means round and with a hole, or any Dunkin' Donuts-style pastry? Personally, I think you'd do better throwing something with some more weight in it, like a cruller or a bear claw. At least go jelly filled. Of course, a rock with some frosting on it probably doesn't count as food....

"Maple bar? They're fresh..."

Well not to be a heel, and discuss other soles...I beleive our current president had a shoe thrown at him! So surely a minister could have a donut tossed at him from now to the inauguration..i mean i dont think the pastors body guards are all that good at stopping donuts..and if i lived closer i would go to church and toss a few dunkins at him..

OBAMA AGREES WITH RICK WARREN ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE.
HE SAID HE IS NOT FOR GAY MARRIAGE

HE JUST NOW IS ACTING LIKE HE CARES ABOUT GAY COUPLES

*tosses a donut*

@ gtown...." a rock with some frosting" !!!! That's priceless.

@ Destry Thanks for allowing this question. I also feel there's a better chance he will be hit with donuts prior to the inauguration. If he is I may just pose the question 'How many reports will there be of Pastor Warren being assaulted with donuts?" My inner child delights in this coming to fruition.

@lilia No need to scream dear. And you are mistaken. Please check this Christian website article Titled 'Obama Cites SErmon on the Mount for his support of Civil Unions.' He just isn't willing to call it 'Marriage'.
http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2008/03/obama_cites_ser.html

You know, it just occurred to me that there could have been some subtle suggestive reason behind Warren giving gay men donuts.....

Marriage should only be between a donut and an eclair!!

Oh that's rich!

They both sound good to me....does that make me bi...or tri?

THATS REAL GROWNIN UP FOR THE LIBERAL'S TO THROW DONUTS/FOOD AT THE MAN CAUSE HE DISAGREES WITH THEM. KINDA LIKE SOME PEOPLE ON THIS SITE. :O)

WHAT?? CAN'T HEAR YOU, I GOT DONUT HOLES IN MY EARS!

And now here comes dieseldog, strutting his stuff with his capitals and all.

I well remember you repeatedly demanding to know why you can't have 3 wives on the Prop 8 in California forum.

d-dog, might you be sweet on lilia, trying to impress her by showing her you are just as loud as her hero, Rush Limbaugh?

you sneaky little peacock....

just trying to remind some people that they shouldn't ASK OTHER FOLKS TO DO SOMETHING WHEN THEY DON'T DO IT THEMSELEVES. won't mention any names.

d-dog, I have no idea what you're hollering about. You should've mentioned names.

As for liberals throwing food at people, I happen to belong to a group called 'Food Not Bombs'. (They made the terrorist list after 9-11. Can't have radical subversives feeding people with nothing to lose when a Republican is in power, ya know?)

Having said this I think it should be clear that I stand in full support of food tossing.

Honestly, we usually do it to hungry people but why stop there?

i don't know obama's interpation of the bible. he as the rest of us interpurt it the way we see fit. you refer to the sermon of the mount as if it ok's gay marriage. as stated in the fourum the bible does no such thing imho. rick being a preacher would proablly say the bible does not condone-approve being gay or gay marriage. you tell lilia to back her statements up. do you back all yours up?

matt 5 - 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. IS NOT ONE OF THE COMMANDMENTS NOT TO COVET THY NEIGHBORS WIFE?

27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old,[c] ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[d] 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. IS THIS NOT REFERRING TO HETROSEXUALS?

31 “Furthermore it has been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ 32 But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality[e] causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery. IS THIS NOT REFERRING TO HETROSEXUALS? NO MENTION OF WHO EVER DIVORCES "HIS" HUSBAND.

d-dog,

You say "....you tell lilia to back her statements up. do you back all yours up?" I like to think I do. Example:

What lilia yelled was "OBAMA AGREES WITH RICK WARREN ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE.
HE SAID HE IS NOT FOR GAY MARRIAGE ", to which I softly replied: You are mistaken. Here's a link that proves it titled "Obama cites Sermon on the Mount to support Civil Unions".

What are you missing here?

As for your scripture toss, all I can say is you're slipping. You are trying to draw something out of nothing. I think that is dangerous space.

If homosexuality was so high on God's list of no-no's I think we'd have a clear reference and wouldn't be desperately pulling this 'hey, look, he said WIFE, not husband...that MUST mean ....'

I'm a follower of Christ myself, partner. Clearly you are not observant of the 'let each one work out his own salvation' or 'let each one be fully convinced in his own mind' bit. No, you feel a need to push for a theocratic government. And that IS what you are doing because the ONLY reason you can give that it's wrong is the Bible.

Let me ask you this....if you're so into the Bible guiding you why aren't you renouncing Capitalism and moving more towards Socialism?

How can you support war, let alone preemptive war?

Are you out preparing to celebrate the pagan holiday of Tammuz now being served up as the baby Jesus' birthday? Do you engage in the mass consumerism of Christmas in a way that would surely offend Jesus, were he here on Earth? Or are you out doing charity work, helping the least of these because the load is heavy and the workers are few?

Are you a 'consumer' Christian or a real player?

Obama cites Sermon on the Mount to support Civil Unions - IT DOES NO SUCH THING. BACK UP YOUR STATEMENT. WHERE DOES THE BIBLE-SERMON OF THE MOUNT SAY BEING GAY/GAY MARRIAGE IS OK? WHERE DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT CIVIL UNIONS..IE SAME SEX COUPLES BEING OK?

You say "....you tell lilia to back her statements up. do you back all yours up?" I like to think I do. - WHERES YOUR MSM SOURCE FOR BUSH MANUFACTURING EVIDENCE TO GO TO WAR?

If homosexuality was so high on God's list of no-no's I think we'd have a clear reference - YOUR THE ONE SLIPPING. I JUST SHOWED YOU PART OF THE SOM YOU THINK OK'S GAY/GAY MARRIAGE. IF YOU CHOSE NOT TO BELIEVE IT THATS ON YOU. TRUTH IS HARD TO TAKE WHEN IT HITS YOU BETWEEN THE EYES.

'hey, look, he said WIFE, not husband...that MUST mean - FEEL FREE TO SHOW SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GAY/GAY MARRIAGE IS OK IN GOD'S EYES.

I'm a follower of Christ myself, partner. Clearly you are not observant of the 'let each one work out his own salvation' - PLEASE READ FIRST 2 LINES IN MY COMMENT #17.

ONLY reason you can give that it's wrong is the Bible. - I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK BEING GAY/GAY MARRIAGE IS NATURAL. I ONLY USED THE BIBLE IN THIS INSTANCE CAUSE YOU USED IT. JUST SHOWING YOU THAT YOU WAS WRONG.

Let me ask you this....if you're so into the Bible guiding you why aren't you renouncing Capitalism and moving more towards Socialism - ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME HOW MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD SHOULD BE? WHAT HAPPEN TO LET EACH WORK HIS OWN SALVATION? SEE THERE YOU GO AGAIN..ONE MINUTE YOU HAVE A VIEW AND THE NEXT YOU CHANGE IT. NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU SUPPORT OBAMA.

YOU WANT TO BE A FLAME THROWER THATS FINE BY ME. I USUALLY JUST LAUGH AND MOVE ON. WHEN YOU GO WAY OVER THE LINE I'LL LET YOU KNOW. HAVE A NICE EVENING.

@conspriacy2
for your lack of bible knowledge no where does our savior say that a wife is any thing but a woman unless u r a Arab/
read it and educate yourself!!!!!!!!
http://www.broadcaster.org.uk/section2/transcript/marriage1.htm

@all: Yelling does not convince anyone, regardless what you are saying or how right you are.

conspiracy said: "d-dog, might you be sweet on lilia, trying to impress her by showing her you are just as loud as her hero, Rush Limbaugh? you sneaky little peacock...."

Tisha might become jealous!

Isn't it odd that the gay rights movement preaches tolerance unless you disagree with them? They want people to be tolerant of their lifestyle but they can't even be tolerant of an opinion.

wow, all this hollering and Bible spouting.
First things first: Let us all practice the Greatest Commandment: Love thy Neighbor. Now you do not need to like the neighbor, heck you dont even have to pay attention to the neighbor but you have to love that neighbor. And the man who said this wasn't talking aobut the ones you got along with; the man was talking aobut the one that made your skin crawl, the one you just wanted to slap the crap out of. Now that man because he did those things and preached those things got his butt hung up on a cross. Don't let his death be for nothing; at least follow that one simple as he said most important commandment, the greatest commandment of all. Cause he knew if oyu looked at every person as your neighbor and loved every person as your neighbor, then all that other stuff would work itself out.
Now with regards to gay marriage:
we have to remember something. Separation of church and state. Not every person in this country is religious. And that part of the constitution is quoted on a frequent basis. No one is talking aobut churches, synagogues, mosques, etc being forced to perform a same sex marriage. Churches can say no, they ahve that right. They are free to tell people of different races they cant come in the doors, They are free to refust marriage and anything else. See there is a little known case back in 1989 or so that tested that out. Little boy was enrolled in a Church Run Nursery School,the school was state liscensed, so when they tossed the little boy out on his ear cause he had AIDS, momma took them to court. The church was free to discriminate based on whatever they wanted to, separation of church and state.
Obama or any other president signing into law "gay marriage" means that people of the same sex can go get themselves a wedding certificate, can legally be married in the yese of the law....there is nothing said about eyes of the church et al.

Remember as to what Jesus said: render unto Caesar that which is Caesars and unto the Lord that which is the Lord.
Let us keep the two things separate.

Tolerance is a funny thing in itself. you see I'd call myself tolerant. I'd tolerate about anything, everyone's opinion.

But still, in one point I'm definitely not tolerant: Whenever it comes to intolerance. Intolerance is something I will never tolerate.

And intolerance is often found when discussion religion or religious topics (just like here) and regardless the religion in question. And to me it doesn't matter whether it is a fundamental Muslim or a fundamental Christian intolerance.

Haha, by not being tolerant of intolerance you have become intolerant. That means you are intolerant of yourself and your own opinions. That must be hard.

@kruijs:

So do you think others will tollerate your intollerance of the intollerable? or will we see anyone tollerating the intollerants tollerably?

@ d-dog, again i reiterate it is not ME citing the Sermon on the Mount. I'm showing Obama has made his opinion known and it does not support what lilia said.

Regarding my point on Christianity I am but trying (and apparently failing) to demonstrate that I fail to see how greed and God go together.

Pertaining to my statement that about scripture you cited, I was attempting to emphasize you are taking a position based on what ISN'T said to make a case for what you believe God wants. And it appears that is the ONLY reason you have to support denying same sex couples marriage.

deanthoreau brings the point closer to home by mentioning separation of Church and State. While you are most definitely within your rights to morally oppose SS marriage you cannot find grounds to oppose constitutionally. I suspect this is true for most Christians having difficulty reconciling this, thus their need to suddenly see State constitutions amended to further 'define' what 'marriage means.

After reviewing my commentary calling you out for what type of Christian you are I feel the need to apologize. I have no way of knowing what is in your heart, it truly is not my place to judge and dean is right; the law of LOVE is what should prevail here.

Now, can we all take a deep breath, get some water and a donut and see where this leads us?

*hands conspiracy a nice hot crossed bun to go with his drink of choice*

When I came on board here a few weeks ago, I was under the impression that this group was about predicting future events. The only issue should be whether some idiot ruins the solemnity of a presidential inauguration by throwing pastry or some other object at an individual -- one who was invited by the president-elect.

Security will be extremely tight and I believe that only the most carefully screened will be allowed anywhere near the podium. The odds are that the donut-throwing fringe will be kept well out of range. That's where I'm putting my "money."

But I guess a valid question would be how close to Pastor Warren the item has to land. Would a hundred yards away qualify as a "hit?" What about 50 yards? How about if someone here in the midwest tosses a pastry in the general direction of DC?

Oops, never mind. I just realized that the question is wide open, covering every second from now through the inauguration. We all could be hit by any object tossed by any nut-job through a timeframe that big. Wager withdrawn.

reaching over owlcreek's head to appreciatively accept one hot cross bun and a scalding hot cup of coffee that is far too full....hoping i don't spill any before i clear owl's head.....whoops....

hey owlcreekobserver....your real name is not Rick Warren by any chance, is it?

oh conspircy u and i together are gonna get in lots of trouble

Please clarify: Does a cruller count as a donut? Must said pastry be donut-shaped to qualify as a donut? Does a jelly-stick count?

Please list all sub-species of donuts.

I think a donut by any other name is no longer a donut . Operating on that premise, I think other foods are everything edible that is NOT a donut.

Now...the donut can have frosting or be plain. I do believe a 'jelly' donut would count as a donut but you've stumped me by muddling the waters with this 'jelly stick'.

Therefore I submit that the donut must be donut shaped but it should be allowed that it has a filling.

If anybody can make a really good case for why the jelly stick should be considered a donut when it's not called a donut and it isn't round like a donut, by all means please do and we shall debate the merits.

# 33 @ dean You may well be right, but can you feel the love?

@ c2r:

I'm not sure why you came after me, but I hope you're feeling all better now.

Your question basically allows for anyone to throw any food item in the general direction of Warren at any time during the next few weeks from anywhere in the world. What would be the odds...maybe 90% likely?

Once I finally figured that out, I withdrew my wager ("No"), which was based on the premise that nobody within food throwing range at the inauguration would be likely to do so.

ok the question should settle cause earlier I said i tossed a donut and I did, I awas standing facing west towards california at the time... i even hollered Yo PReacher when I threw it..I also tossed a bottle of H2O which I figured he might want. I mean even heterosexuals need a little something to wash down the donut...Especially since the donut I tossed very lovingly at Warren was a hemmroid donut!

@deanthoreau: "ok the question should settle cause earlier I said i tossed a donut and I did, I awas standing facing west towards california at the time... i even hollered Yo PReacher when I threw it..I also tossed a bottle of H2O which I figured he might want...."

There ya' go. Problem solved.

so where's my money??? Oh by the way the Hubbiedubbie store we can use hubdub bucks right?

"Yo, Preacher!" : )

C'mon Owl....grow a humor cell. This question serves to illustrate Warren's bizarre comment and being timed with Bush having a shoe whipped at him, it makes for good fodder. Plus it's not like in our country throwing a donut at someone is the highest social faux pas one can commit.

Come to think of it....I'm not sure we have a national insult. We're America. We should have a veritable treasure trove of official insults. I wonder what Stephan Colbert would have to say about this. Does he hubdub?

cons2 - first let me clear sumthin up. i'm a God fearing man. i'm not a bible thumper and i sin every day. when i'm not on HD i'm as orney as the next guy. i try to follow the HD rules and not do things that would cross the line of a family-pg rated site. i'm not claiming my interpation of the bible is any better than yours or obama's. you don't like bush and love to blame any and every thing that goes wrong on him. when you find somebody who likes bush you want them to backup everything they say. theres more than one time you accused bush of things and offer no proof. if God approved-wanted gay marriage don't you think he woulda mentioned it at least once? i don't dislike any of you fine people, just having a discussion. if i came across as not liking anybody i'm sorry. taking a deep breath and getting a donut. takes one bite then throws donut at f-o-f..hehehe.

kruijs - i'm not yelling..just tormenting cons2.

f-o-f - WTG!! now i'm in hot water with tisha :O( if you wouldn't have said anything tisha wouldn't have knowin. :O)

owlcreek - after you been around for awhile you'll notice from time to time theres a "discussion" on a question. this is one such case..and a mild case at that.

Hmmm....let's see....d-dog....did I just hear you say you scream to torment me?

Careful there good buddy, I may well have to skip over to tisha and invite her to bet on this market. That happens and you might wanna get a box of donuts and settle in, cuz it may well be the only sugar you're gettin for awhile. : )

cons2 - no don't do that. i'll convert to a obama suppoter. just don't get my sugar cut off. :O)

not one of you read /or did not want too #20? it does not mean i am a bible basher because i am not, what i am is a believer, if you don't believe in something then you cannot believe in yourself, pinch your self see if you can feel it.
some one asks for a list of donuts well everyone on here are including me!!!!!!!

incidently over here a donut can me a name for a tyre,
get 4 more and tell the con man to drive of into the sunset 4 more yes he will require a spare
cheers

Wha...huh?

@curios....you know, at first i thought your user name was just cute spelling, but after this last post, well....

i have just checked your page and i'm sorry but under the ABOUT ME section you have 'just a dinkidie ozzie'.

it is obvious i don't speak your language, therefore my answer to your question about the earlier post is no.

please return to the place where donuts name you for a tyre.

Interesting. Never occurred to me this would make sense. Thanks FoF.

Can you decipher the rest of the post?

@ d-dog.....ain't it amazing how fast we'll sacrifice our principles for a little sugar?

I am sorely tempted to cut and paste this declaration of conversion at the bottom of each post I leave, henceforth....

@conspiracy2> tell me how come you fall out with every one or is it you are a all time s..t stirrer

@conspiracy2>For your edification (donut) explanation it is basically a West Australian expression, you have a wheel take out the rim and what have you a Donut of course in America they say (donuts for dollars)its pleasing to see f_o_f put you right

I think after the Warren interview today..there is an eextremely high likelihood that a few Pizza's will be tossed at the Preacher
i quoate "Mr. Warren's relating gays to pedophiles, incest and gay marriage to his incessant craving of sex with women he was not married to caught me a little off guard.," said Ms Curry, "But after the camera stopped filming he went on to make the comparison of gays to pizza, I must say, I was startled."

"Just because I like pizza it doesn't mean I should marry it," said Warren. "Biologically, I am predisposed to enjoy the immaculate melding of mozzarella cheese, red sauce and thick crust baked to tasty perfection. But that doesn't mean I should enter into a lifelong commitment with Sicilian or plain, nor bed it down" this was siad In an interview with Ann Curry on NBC's Dateline, by Evangelist Preacher, Rick Warren

Oh that's so rich it's gotta be fattening, dean.

Out of the mouths of retards and all.....the man does not disappoint.

It almost sounds as if Warren's trying to come out of the closet here. The message of his retarded metaphor is that he likes pizza (i.e. homosexuals) but that he doesn't want to marry it (i.e. a homosexual). There is also something very disturbing about the fact that in some part of his Christianity-addled mind, he connects homosexuals to an Italian food product. I believe that Warren needs a long night in a big bed with a huge, hairy-backed Sicilian beast of a man. Then he'll see the Light.

If God wasn't in favor of homosexuality, why did he create Sergius and Bacchus, who incidentally, were Roman, which is almost like being Italian.

Leave it to Warren to choose a calorie laden, colon clogging food to metaphorically describe homosexuality.

For some reason I've always associated homosexuals with Sushi. I've no idea why.

guess only the common sense liberals attended. thank God!

nah...i bet it was more like everybody was smoking weed and ate their donuts.

If theres one thing you can trust liberals on, its unreliability.