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Will President Obama help DC's 600,000 residents win voting representation in Congress ?

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Market voided. Market is about a good topic, however there needs to be clearer definition of what would generate a YES settlement. The way the market is phrased defining help could be controversial. Since the President would have very little impact on the outcome, maybe resubmitting the question asking if the action will be accomplished by congress. Also with setting settlement details, when a market is asking if an event will occur the suspend date is relative to the event. If market is asking if even will occur by a particular date then that should be spelled out in question title or background. Starting odds for a market should reflect likelihood event will occur within the given time frame.

Background:

Background: In 2007, the 600,000 disenfranchised residents of Washington, DC were just three votes shy of overcoming a Republican filibuster and passing legislation to give them a voting representative in Congress for the first time. On Tuesday, the House took up the fight to strengthen our democracy once again, as Congressman Jerry Nadler chaired the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties hearing on the "District of Columbia House Voting Rights Act of 2009." DC Voting Rights were well represented in Congress yesterday, but this fight is just beginning--once again.

Source:
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut/402563/a_vote_means_dignity?rel=sidebox

http://www.dcvote.org/index.cfm

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source. This must occur before or on the suspension date to settle as a YES. All other results settle as a NO

 
Forecast history %
Yes, DC gets Representation
50%
NO DC still gets just taxation
50%
Voided Wed 28th Jan 2009 5:55pm PST

Suspend date: Sat 28th Nov 2009 11:59pm PST

Initial likelihoods: Yes, DC gets Representation: 50%, NO DC still gets just taxation: 50%

Action history:

Created Wed 28th Jan 2009 1:09pm PST by misterbojangles
Voided Wed 28th Jan 2009 5:55pm PST by destry[Admin]: Market voided. Market is about a good topic, however there needs to be clearer definition of what would generate a YES settlement. The way the market is phrased defining help could be controversial. Since the President would have very little impact on the outcome, maybe resubmitting the question asking if the action will be accomplished by congress. Also with setting settlement details, when a market is asking if an event will occur the suspend date is relative to the event. If market is asking if even will occur by a particular date then that should be spelled out in question title or background. Starting odds for a market should reflect likelihood event will occur within the given time frame.

Suspend date: Sat 28th Nov 2009 11:59pm PST details

 

Predictions (3)

1 year ago
lcsnor predicted NO DC still gets just taxation (H$175 at 54%)
1 year ago
cheesenips predicted NO DC still gets just taxation (H$500 at 52%)

Comments (48)

Another great Q, Mr. Bo! My thinking is that Obama will have other fish to fry. This would not be on his first year's priority list.

As to whether DC residents are being treated unfairly, I would argue NO while big spenders control both the White House and Congress.
posted 1 year ago
  2 misterbojangles
You really are much to quick with with that void button. Perhaps you should go to staples and buy an easy button to play with.
posted 1 year ago
  3 misterbojangles
to be a real question all you have to do is edit out "President Obama help" cause the settlement is perfect...there is a bill that was introduced in the house as the background information stated.
november is a reasonable amt of time to expect passage in consideration of the presidential promises made during the campaign.
It is also after economic stimulus, after the summer break
and the odds considering it was defeated once before by the rupublicans and a 2/3 is needed
it has a 50/50 chance of passage
posted 1 year ago
  4 dieseldog
wonder where misterbo went..
posted 1 year ago
Right wing conspiracy decided he knew to much. Hes in a holding cell in guantonomo bay with a thong on his head being told his parents are whores.
posted 1 year ago
Perhaps he took a job editing at Wikipedia.
posted 1 year ago
  7 dieseldog
either dragonfang's theory is correct or he mighta asked for his account to be deleted. one other theory he coulda said something via email..ie went off on an admin. whatever the case is will proablly remain a mystery to us regular HD'rs.
posted 1 year ago
i'll find out sooner or later....i can guarantee you he did not request an account deletion.

i've been poking around and see no evidence of overt mouthiness so far, so your point of an argument via email is probably closer to the truth.

wonder why they let me run wild and others go poof! so fast. must be my polite nature and winning personality.

God I love me....
posted 1 year ago
*talking into a radio* yeah, swat squad, are you outside c2rs house? Good. The second he leaves send him off to guantonomo bay. Whats that? Obama cut our funding and is closing it? Crap!!! Abort mission abort mission!
posted 1 year ago
'Abort' is simply one of my favorite words.
posted 1 year ago
  11 dieseldog
con2 - you don't bad mouth the admins to much. you come close but i guess you haven't crossed the line. your a pain in the butt to me and dragonfang. i think they keep you around to keep us rightwingers inline.
posted 1 year ago
You love me and you know it.....downright drawn to me like a moth to a flame.
posted 1 year ago
Or in this case a moth to a flamer!
posted 1 year ago
Clever....very clever dragonqueen. Can't tell you how delighted I am you requested my friendship darling.
posted 1 year ago
  15 dieseldog
con2 - ok i'll try one more line on you then off to kick my dog.

I just sh*t my pants..can i get in yours?
posted 1 year ago
Well you know me c2r! Know thine enemy and all that!
posted 1 year ago
Gee D,
all these sexual references to things so....anal.

seems i've hit paydirt with all you barely in the closet republicans. i do loves me gay mens.
posted 1 year ago
diesel....it's just occurred to me....when you say " i'm off to 'kick' my dog..."
you wouldn't mean....you know....something like 'spank my monkey', or 'choke my chicken', or 'cuff my carrot' ....now would you? i mean, is this some kind of right wing code or slang?
posted 1 year ago
Youve found us out! All of us "Barley in the closet republicans" thought youd never discover our secret code!
posted 1 year ago
the odds were so in my favor. it's nearly impossible to be a republican without your core values manifesting themselves this way.
posted 1 year ago
Ok, on a more serious note, why the gay jokes at republicans? Republicans are generally the ones against gay marriages while democrats are more for them. I dont have a statistic to back this up but im pretty sure that there are a lot more gay democrats then there are republicans. Now apart from the occasional hypocrite (which often occurs on both sides. Thats right im looking at you former governor spitzer) republicans have honest and strong core values which are generally not corrupted.
posted 1 year ago
Thanks. Best laugh I've had all day. Now...let me go find a little list of names for you....
posted 1 year ago
STOP REPUBLICAN PEDOPHILIA


* Republican activist and former chairman of the Christian County Republicans Royce Fessenden pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree child molestation and one count of second-degree statutory sodomy.

* Republican parole board officer and former legislator George C. (Chris) Ortloff pleaded guilty to attempting to lure 11- and 12-year-old girls to have sex with him.

* Republican legislative aide Robert R. Groezinger was arrested for possessing child pornography.

* Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography.

* Republican legislator Scott Muschany was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl.

* Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography to a 13-year old girl
posted 1 year ago
* Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.

* Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.

* Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S. attorney" appointed by President Bush's attorney general.

* Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.

* Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.

* Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.

* Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.

* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.

* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
posted 1 year ago
I could go ON and ON and ON. But you get the point.

Dems tend to be straight and cheat on their wives. Republicans have ALL kinds of issues. It's because they're so uptight. Oppression does weird things to a person evidently.

By the way...if you'd like to read the rest of the names of your peops on the list, pack a lunch and go HERE: http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
posted 1 year ago
Now...what can you tell me about Jeff "Bulldog" Gannon?
posted 1 year ago
C2r, do we really need to do this again? For every republican disgrace, theres 3 democrats. I could bring up the list again if you like. In fact in portland just the other day, the mayor had sex with a 17 year old boy! And thats just this month! Eliot spitzer, bill clinton, and many many more democrats are guilty of such crimes! They probably outnumber republican scandals 3:1! Now, its a well documented fact, that the second you enter the legislative branch you become a pedophile but republicans are much less susceptible to these kinds of things then democrats!
posted 1 year ago
  28 curios
watch (con) the next cab of the rank will be dragons ultra ego
posted 1 year ago
Im sorry? Once again youve lost me curious. Your thick australian accent can be hard to decode.
posted 1 year ago
Not true and you should know that Sam Adams did NOT have sex with Beau Breedlove until after he'd turned 18. That happens to be a consensual sex situation...what Adams did wrong is he LIED about it. You live here, get your facts 'straight'.

You are way off base if you don't think your crew is the walking warped, dysfunctional and kinky bunch on the planet. And they hate themselves for it. Let's take a look at the ministry and see how many fundies we can cough up ...but FIRST, I must share my FAVORITE Republican of all.....
GOT MULE?
Otis O'Neal Horsley, Jr. (born 1944) is an American political figure of the far right. He is the author of a website devoted to his advocacy of militant pro-life, secessionist, and anti-gay views.
Horsley was born in Bremen, Georgia. On May 5, 2005, Horsley was a guest on The Alan Colmes Show, a FOX News radio program. During that interview, and after repeated questions about his personal sinfulness, Mr. Horsley stated that when he was eleven years old he had engaged in bestiality with a mule on the farm he grew up on in Georgia. "I was a fool," Horsley told Colmes, crediting Jesus with forgiving and cleansing him of his "sin."[1] After serving in the Air Force in the mid-1960s, Horsley traveled to San Francisco, California, (interesting choice of cities) where he claims to have become an anti-war advocate and hippie. Horsley did time in jail on charges of drug possession, and it was there in 1974 that he converted to Christianity.

Now...lets see, The Trials of Ted Haggard are on HBO tonight but I'm sure we have lots of men of the cloth to bring forward.
posted 1 year ago
I heard a conflicting report that said he started having sex with him when he was 17 and continued to do so until age 18.
Otis oneal huh? A anti war advocate and a hippy. Doesnt sound like any republican i know. Probably just a scuzz bag trying to mask his sleazy ways by adopting the republican ideals of honest values.
posted 1 year ago
  32 curios
dont con be (dragon) you now exactly to which i refer of course when you are down you have to change the sUbject answer (con)
posted 1 year ago
  33 curios
opps me
posted 1 year ago
"dont con be" "you now exactly" "sUbject answer". Your accent is getting worse every day!
posted 1 year ago
  35 curios
dishonest ideals or have you forgotten bush
posted 1 year ago
  36 curios
now you cannot read you poor old man
posted 1 year ago
I guess not! Can you refrase the question?
posted 1 year ago
"Probably just a scuzz bag trying to mask his sleazy ways by adopting the republican ideals". Yeah...this republican mule molester went on to become a raging anti abortionist condoning any and all types of violence used to 'save' tiny, little zygotes. Just another typical republican deviant/loon. The only stretch he had where he wasn't advocating somebody/some animal be violated was when he was doing drugs as a hippie. Imagine.
posted 1 year ago
Wow...stroke of luck. Here's a few members of the clergy kink club:

List of Christian Evangelists

* 1.1 Aimee Semple McPherson, 1920s-40s
* 1.2 Lonnie Frisbee, 1970s - 1980s
* 1.3 Billy James Hargis, early 1970s
* 1.4 Oral Roberts, 1977 and 1986
* 1.5 Jim & Tammy Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart, 1986 and 1991
* 1.6 Peter Popoff, 1987
* 1.7 Mike Warnke, 1991
* 1.8 Robert Tilton, 1991
* 1.9 Frank Houston, 2000
* 1.10 John Paulk, 2000
* 1.11 Paul Crouch, 2004
* 1.12 Douglas Goodman, 2004
* 1.13 Kent Hovind, 2006
* 1.14 Ted Haggard, 2006
* 1.15 Paul Barnes, 2006
* 1.16 Lonnie Latham, 2006
* 1.17 Richard Roberts, 2007
* 1.18 Bishop Earl Paulk, 2007
* 1.19 Coy Privette, 2007
* 1.20 Phil Driscoll, 2007
* 1.21 Joe Barron, 2008
* 1.22 Todd Bentley, 2008
* 1.23 Tony Alamo, 2008
And notice Haggard didn't even make this list. There's SO many more.
posted 1 year ago
  40 dieseldog
con2 - i can't reveal the right wing code to a liberal. lets say it might be code for the things you listed. do you wanna watch? or maybe give a helping hand?
posted 1 year ago
depends on what's going on, d. not really into 'heterosexual with complications' (which i just heard anderson cooper use to describe ted haggard).
posted 1 year ago
Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment. Democrats cast doubt on the allegations and the Senate Ethics Committee dropped its investigation,
Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa. The House Ethics Committee decided against disciplinary action in 1990.
Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s. Only two Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to censure him in 1990.
Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988. (my personal favorite. Real ideals man)
Rormer Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election—before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.
Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later
Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democratic House leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration Committee in 1976.
And many many more. Keep in mind that list of christian evangelists is from hundreds of thousands of them scattered around the us. Id say 20 out of 10000 is a pretty good record. Much better than most jobs.
posted 1 year ago
Is that where you went off to dragon? he he ....out trying to locate dirty dems? shall i put up the other 2000 names I have? it's a dead thread here. can't see why anyone would mind.
posted 1 year ago
Besides....I only see one 'child' listed there....all of mine are little boys and girls. It's a pedophilia thing with repubs....well, that and beastiality.
posted 1 year ago
Heres a child that happened within the last month, a portland mayor had sex with a 17 year old boy. Just within the last month! http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/portlands_gay_mayor_sex_with_a_minor/
posted 1 year ago
Do not come here with your BLOG as a source. The story is that when he was ASKED initially if he'd had an affair with a minor he said NO...and he had not had the affair when the kid was a minor...but when he was old enough he DID. There is NO proof and the kids not claiming he had sex with Adams prior to that 18th birthday. Think what you want but you can't prove S.

Here's the excerpt from Huff Po:

Rumors of the relationship had surfaced when the then-city commissioner was getting ready to run for mayor in 2007, but he and the teen both denied it at the time.

In a statement he released Monday confirming the relationship, Adams said he lied then because the rumors claimed the teen was underage. He said the relationship did not begin until after the teen turned 18 in June 2005. That is the legal age of consent in Oregon.

At the time, the teen was a legislative intern whom Adams mentored on being gay and in public service. He is now 21 and has not made any public comments acknowledging any relationship with Adams.

Rumors of the relationship had surfaced when the then-city commissioner was getting ready to run for mayor in 2007, but he and the teen both denied it at the time.

In a statement he released Monday confirming the relationship, Adams said he lied then because the rumors claimed the teen was underage. He said the relationship did not begin until after the teen turned 18 in June 2005. That is the legal age of consent in Oregon.

At the time, the teen was a legislative intern whom Adams mentored on being gay and in public service. He is now 21 and has not made any public comments acknowledging any relationship with Adams.

Your sayanything blog has twisted the facts. There is no crime here other than he denied ever being with this young man. Course...being a Republican I can understand how you think this is impossible.
posted 1 year ago
Yeah, right. Ill trust the huffington post the day you trust Rush Limbaugh.
posted 1 year ago
Fine, check another news site that's actually a news site. Same story.
posted 1 year ago

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