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The Pope pardoned a Holocaust denial bishop - How will he respond to critics?

Settled as The Pope remains silent

Both the Vatican and Jewish leaders says the matter is now over, so this one can be settled. Now, the Pope neither offered an apology for reversing the excommunication, nor rescinded the excommunication. However, neither did the Pope remain silent. However, given the spirit of the question, we understand 'the Pope remains silent' to mean that he didn't apologize or rescind, so we feel safe settling this as option #4.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1143662/It-unacceptable--ESPECIALLY-priest--deny-Holocaust-Pope-tells-Jewish-leaders-bishop-row.html?ITO=1490

Background:

Background: The Pope lifted the excommunication of Mr Williamson, a member of the ultraconservative sect the Society of St Pius X this week, even though he has repeatedly denied that Jews died in the gas chambers during the Second World War.

As an excuse, the Pope said he had repeatedly visited Auschwitz, the site of the "brutal massacre of millions of Jews, innocent victims of blind racial and religious hatred" and said the Holocaust "should be a warning for everyone against forgetting, denying or diminishing its significance

Addressing the uproar over the rehabilitation of Williamson in his weekly audience with the public on Wednesday, Pope Benedict said he "renewed with love" his "full and indisputable solidarity" with Jews, whom he called "our brothers of the first covenant.".

Nevertheless, the Central Council of Jews in Germany is breaking off contact with the Roman Catholic Church because of Pope Benedict XVI's rehabilitation its president said Thursday.

In Italy, a priest who is a regional leader of the same traditionalist group Williamson belongs to, said "gas chambers existed at least for disinfecting" inmates but he was not sure they were used to kill them.

The priest, Floriano Abrahamowicz, defended Williamson and said that while it was "impossible for a Christian to be an anti-Semite," the whole Williamson affair was part of a "very powerful campaign against the Vatican."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/4388359/Minister-criticises-Pope-for-pardoning-Holocaust-denial-bishop.html
http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/29/europe/pope.4-419058.php

Still, the Pope experiences overwhelming condemnations. What happens first, before suspension?

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source.

 
Forecast history %
Yet another apology by the Pope
3%
Silent withdrawal of the pardoning by the Pope
1%
Withdrawal of the pardoning and another apology
2%
The Pope remains silent
94%
Settled as The Pope remains silent on Wed 18th Feb 7:04pm PST

Suspend date: Sat 14th Feb 7:59am PST
Settlement date: Wed 18th Feb 7:04pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Sat 14th Feb 7:59am PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: Yet another apology by the Pope: 60%, Silent withdrawal of the pardoning by the Pope: 5%, Withdrawal of the pardoning and another apology: 10%, The Pope remains silent: 25%

Action history:

Created Thu 29th Jan 12:51pm PST by kruijs[Power User]
Suspended Sat 14th Feb 7:59am PST : Suspend date reached
Settlement requested Sat 14th Feb 8:34am PST by arleyguy: Can be settled as 'the pope remains silent' as although he has commented on the issue, he has not taken any of the 'actions' listed as the other options on this Q.
Settlement requested Tue 17th Feb 3:45am PST by arleyguy: sorry to pester, is it possible to settle this one yet, I'm keen to free up my cash for other predictions
Settled as 'The Pope remains silent' Wed 18th Feb 7:04pm PST by sqlman[Admin]: Both the Vatican and Jewish leaders says the matter is now over, so this one can be settled. Now, the Pope neither offered an apology for reversing the excommunication, nor rescinded the excommunication. However, neither did the Pope remain silent. However, given the spirit of the question, we understand 'the Pope remains silent' to mean that he didn't apologize or rescind, so we feel safe settling this as option #4.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1143662/It-unacceptable--ESPECIALLY-priest--deny-Holocaust-Pope-tells-Jewish-leaders-bishop-row.html?ITO=1490

Suspend date: Sat 14th Feb 7:59am PST
Settlement date: Wed 18th Feb 7:04pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Sat 14th Feb 7:59am PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled details

 

Predictions (95)

39 weeks ago
interviewer predicted The Pope remains silent (H$50 at 94%)
40 weeks ago
omagnus predicted Withdrawal of the pardoning and another apology (H$20 at 1%)
40 weeks ago
arleyguy predicted The Pope remains silent (H$1,000 at 95%)
40 weeks ago
guruzilla predicted The Pope remains silent (H$50 at 94%)
40 weeks ago
kruijs[Power User] predicted The Pope remains silent (H$1,000 at 93%)

Comments (13)

What a dickhead (make your choice who is meant :-)).
posted 42 weeks ago
  2 kruijs[Power User]
can I take multiple answers?
posted 42 weeks ago
up to five...
posted 42 weeks ago
  4 bernardo
The church is always best at mistaking facts ;) - Zyklon B has been used for disinfection of clothes etc., but that doesn't matter to thousands of people who died from exhaust gases and other stuff
posted 42 weeks ago
Not that it matters to the question, but as backgroud Williamson is also a troofer, believing 9/11 was an inside job.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1221967
posted 42 weeks ago
  6 kruijs[Power User]
oh, hey, but that's true!

:-P
posted 42 weeks ago
  7 kruijs[Power User]
"[Richard Williamson] has apologized to the pontiff for the "distress and problems" he caused by denying the Holocaust.

Bishop Richard Williamson, who recently denied that 6 million Jews were murdered during the Holocaust, is calling his remarks "imprudent" as he expresses his regrets in a letter posted on Friday on his personal blog."

"An Israeli government official said Friday that the Jewish state has good relations with the Vatican despite a recent controversy over Pope Benedict XVI's decision to readmit an ultraconservative bishop who denies the Holocaust to the Roman Catholic Church."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gpbkisgs-EZ40shoCodJd4rfBNwAD961J3JO0
posted 42 weeks ago
  8 ojw15
Does this count:

'Earlier, a senior cardinal acknowledged the Vatican had mishandled the issue.'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7869995.stm

Probably the closest you can ever come to issuing an apology when you're technically infallible...
posted 41 weeks ago
  9 ojw15
And, in fact, possibly even more pertinently and from the same article:

'The BBC's David Willey in Rome says it is almost unheard of for a pope to admit publicly that he has made a mistake. But that is in effect the significance of the urgent statement put out by the Vatican, our correspondent adds.'
posted 41 weeks ago
  10 arleyguy
not an apology from the pope... yet though
posted 41 weeks ago
  11 bernardo
If the background story is counted as an apology, this would settle as "Yet another apology by the Pope", since he expressed himself on the topic a few times. But those apologies adressed Holocaust itself and not the denial or lifting of the excommunications.. However, you can't say he "remained" silent.
posted 40 weeks ago
  12 sqlman[Admin]
There was a lot of back and forth on this one at a high level; we apologize for the delay, but are satisfied with the resulting settlement.
posted 39 weeks ago
  13 tkui
if you look at the "Related News" it's obvious that the question is not settled
posted 39 weeks ago

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