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Iranian Justice: Her name is Ameneh Bahrami and she wants an eye for an eye. Will it happen?

Settled as No

We've extended this one for several months in expectation of hearing something one way or another, but have failed to find any recent MSM news.

Background:

Background: Ameneh Bahrami is certain that one day she'll meet someone, fall in love and get married. But when her wedding day comes, her husband won't see her eyes, and she won't see her husband. Bahrami is blind, the victim of an acid attack by a spurned suitor.
Ameneh Bahrami said her attacker pestered her with marriage demands. When she repeatedly refused he threw acid in her face.

If she gets her way, her attacker will suffer the same fate. The 31-year-old Iranian is demanding the ancient punishment of "an eye for an eye," and, in accordance with Islamic law, she wants to blind Majid Movahedi, the man who blinded her.

Two weeks after the attack, Movahedi turned himself in to police and confessed in court. He was convicted in 2005 and has been behind bars all along.

Bahrami's lawyer, Ali Sarrafi, said Movahedi had never shown any remorse. "He says he did it because he loved her," Sarrafi said.

Attack victims in Iran usually accept "blood money": a fine in lieu of harsh punishment. With no insurance and mounting medical bills, Bahrami could've used the cash, but she said no.

"I told the judge I want an eye for an eye," Bahrami said. "People like him should be made to feel my suffering."

Late last year, an Iranian court gave Bahrami what she asked for. It sentenced Movahedi to be blinded with drops of acid in each eye. This month, the courts rejected Movahedi's appeal.

Bahrami's lawyer, Sarrafi, said the sentencing might be carried out in a matter of weeks. He said he doesn't think Bahrami will change her mind. Neither does Bahrami.

"If I don't do this and there is another acid attack, I will never forgive myself for as long as I live," she said.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/02/19/acid.attack.victim/index.html

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source.

 
Forecast history %
Yes
39%
No
61%
Settled as No on Wed 9th Sep 2009 2:42pm PST

Suspend date: Mon 31st Aug 2009 11:59pm PST
Settlement date: Wed 9th Sep 2009 2:42pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 31st Aug 2009 11:59pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: Yes: 65%

Action history:

Created Thu 19th Feb 2009 2:57pm PST by conspiracy2riot
Settlement requested Sun 22nd Feb 2009 2:48pm PST by andrewdb: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/02/19/acid.attack.victim/index.html


Late last year, an Iranian court gave Bahrami what she asked for. It sentenced Movahedi to be blinded with drops of acid in each eye. This month, the courts rejected Movahedi's appeal.
Settlement requested Sun 1st Mar 2009 1:35pm PST by andrewdb: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/02/19/acid.attack.victim/index.html

This has been updated multiple times to say that they'll drop acid in the guys eyes.

This alone should be settlement for a YES.

Not waiting for a time where the time when it says it DID happen. That's just wrong.
Settlement requested Thu 26th Mar 2009 7:30am PST by andrewdb: http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/03/26/acid-attack-revenge-eye-for-an-eye/iran-court-allows-victim-to-blind-culprit.html


This is getting out of hand.

There was at least a 50% chance of a NO vote and now that things have gone on and on and on it's predominately yes, making the people like me who voted originally voted yes' original votes WORTH LESS.

This isn't fair. :(
Changed Suspend date Sat 28th Mar 2009 7:55am PST by ryanj: was: "2009-05-01 23:59:00"
Suspended Tue 14th Apr 2009 11:59pm PST : Suspend date reached
Changed Suspend date Thu 16th Apr 2009 7:49am PST by ryanj: was: "2009-04-14 23:59:00"
Unsuspended Thu 16th Apr 2009 7:49am PST by ryanj: Market suspend date moved up as its not clear if Bahrami has yet formally done the deed
Suspended Thu 30th Apr 2009 11:59pm PST : Suspend date reached
Changed Suspend date Mon 4th May 2009 5:23am PST by ryanj: was: "2009-04-30 23:59:00"
Unsuspended Mon 4th May 2009 5:23am PST by ryanj
Suspended Mon 31st Aug 2009 11:59pm PST : Suspend date reached
Settlement requested Wed 9th Sep 2009 4:30am PST by keyeshoveden[Power User]: Do y9ou think we can settle this because I haven't found any news?
Settled as 'No' Wed 9th Sep 2009 2:42pm PST by sqlman[Admin]: We've extended this one for several months in expectation of hearing something one way or another, but have failed to find any recent MSM news.

Suspend date: Mon 31st Aug 2009 11:59pm PST
Settlement date: Wed 9th Sep 2009 2:42pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 31st Aug 2009 11:59pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled details

 

Predictions (108)

28 weeks ago
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Comments (17)

C'mon kids....what do you think?

The guy permanently blinded and disfigured her.

After 4 years he still shows no remorse.

It COULD be a deterrent to the next acid tosser...perhaps.

I am thinking real hard on what road I'd travel if I were this woman.....
posted 1 year ago
While she has the right, Islamic law also very strongly says that is better to show mercy if the attacker asks for mercy.
posted 1 year ago
  3 kennyk
Brutal, but fair.
posted 1 year ago
@saad, I do like the concept of mercy and forgiveness, but it would appear in this case that if the woman takes the money, the man who did this to her gets to walk away a free man, yes?

I think she is worried that someone this disturbed would fixate on another woman and if money is the only punishment for a crime of this nature he COULD well do it again. And it also sets a nice precedent for other women to request punishments against their attackers.

I could see me WANTING to make the same choice she has, I'm just not sure I can see me actually sticking with it. Once it's done there's no going back.
posted 1 year ago
Mercy and forgiveness has to go along with the feeling of regretfullness and remorse. If there is no feeling of remorse then there can be no mercy and forgiveness. I see no other option but to agree with kennyk in the final analysis, "Brutal but fair."
posted 1 year ago
  6 daddeoh
Ugh! Barbaric.
posted 1 year ago
  7 buckojo
horses for courses...this kind of acid attack is not uncommon in the middle east and places like afghanistan - this biggest plus in allowing this form of justice is badly needed deterrence - im in favour of not only going ahead with it - but shouting it from the rooftops so that other men out there get the message that punishment wont just be a prison stay or a fine - its blindness...
posted 1 year ago
  8 daddeoh
The original crime is horrific and it's a natural immediate reaction to call for revenge. But it is even more horrific to consider the state carrying out the same act in cold blood in the name of its citizens.
The crime should be punished of course. I don't know the Iranian system but it seemed from the article that a rich person would be able to carry out any crime and then buy their way out of any punishment. If that is the case then I can only say that I prefer a society where the principle is that we are all equal before the law.
So the punishment should be prison. I myself wouldn't dismiss a long term in an Iranian jail as "just a prison stay".
In England, since 1689 we have outlawed the use of 'cruel and unusual punishment'.
posted 1 year ago
  9 Erik
MADRID (AP)
'...Bahrami, who moved to Spain after the attack to get medical treatment, said Wednesday that under Iranian law, she is entitled to blind him in only one eye, unless she pays euro20,000 ($25,110), because in Iran women are not considered equal to men.
"They have told us that my two eyes are equal to one of his because in my country each man is worth two women. They are not the same," she told Cadena SER.
Bahrami explained that she was now waiting for a letter from the court to go back to Iran for the punishment to be carried out...
The woman said Majid would be blinded by having several drops of acid put into one eye, whereas she had acid splashed all over her face and other parts of her body.'
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gDTsh1Z49Y4lmaaiCP9FY66DMk0gD96NB6EG0
posted 1 year ago
  10 mork[Power User]
This whole story disturbs the H out of me.
posted 1 year ago
It really IS disturbing. While I'm horrified the government is willing to do this....I am pissed with them only doing it to one eye, for the reason given.

That's just plain wrong. He gets to keep one eye because he's a MAN?
posted 1 year ago
  12 buckojo
Sure, the permissive culture (as opposed to law)of acid attacks comes about precisely because men are seen as superior and woman are seen as property; property to be ruined if it is not cooperative.

I'm generally not a huge fan of 'message sending' by governments/judiciary - it tends to be ineffective because it does not address root causes - but the eye for an eye punishment in this case exists in a scenario where root causes are linked to overriding state indifference to the abovementioned permissive culture. So blind the twat.
posted 1 year ago
  13 sqlman[Admin]
"Majid Emovahedi will be held down by prison officials and under anaesthetic at the time. He won’t feel anything as Ameneh pours the acid on his face. A doctor will be wearing gloves to hold Majid’s eyes open so she can squeeze the acid in." http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/world-news/2009/03/26/acid-attack-revenge-eye-for-an-eye/iran-court-allows-victim-to-blind-culprit.html

He's lucky if he only loses his eye(s); he ruined pretty much all of her face...
posted 51 weeks ago
  14 aikon
Why should he get anaesthetic? Surely an "eye for an eye" means equal punishment... Personally I think he should get that and then some.
posted 49 weeks ago
  15 frank2877
Someone remind me, why haven't we nuked this place ??
posted 49 weeks ago
  16 buckojo
The woman and children, and guys, who arent rapists, or nutters.
posted 49 weeks ago
  17 frogchop
Can anyone find any news that's more recent than April 2009 on this besides blogs?
posted 32 weeks ago

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