When will the NFL players lost at sea be found?

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http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=101485&catid=8

how are we defining 'found' here, do we include alive and the unfortunate event of their bodies being found?

In whatever condition they are found should settle the question.

So one being found doesn't count?

Oops I should have read the settlement details, I went right for the comments, sorry!

What's going to be the outcome if one is found on one day and another on another day, or not at all? Should all the options read both found BY rather than both found ON?

media reports one person with overturned boat found//no knowledge of who or if this is their boat;however, no other boats are missing

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece

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not looking good for the other 3 missing guys. what a horrid ordeal. i so hope those other guys had life vests on but damn if i haven't gone out ti sea with men who refuse to wear one....in fact, i can't think of a single one that ever did.

The person found clinging to the boat was not one of the players. Others are all still missing.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/02/florida.missing.boaters/index.html

more guys wind up drowning while out sailing because they don't wear a vest or tie off and they'll be taking a leak and fall overboard. amazing the number of fellows they find with their zippers down. I'm sure that's not the case here but I felt like talking about it.

Remind me not to piss off a boat in the middle of the ocean next time we go out to sea.

Two NFL players, two University players. One uni player found so far. The boat was not big enough to go so far out, and the seas became rough.

this is a rather sad story...

it's downright tragic. i feel awful for them and their families. i've spent a lot of time out to sea and you get thrown a lot of curve balls. being in a boat that size would just SUCK. wonder what the water temp is.

Water temp is in the mid to upper 60's. Some concern about hypothermia:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Am1hM5cuX4f911spDBOuH1k5nYcB?slug=ap-missingboaters-nfl&prov=ap&type=lgns

That's way too long to be in the water. If they were in a raft or able to cling to the boat, they'd have a chance, but unfortunately, the odds are getting pretty bleak at this point for finding them alive.

Just to clarify...what if one is found on the 4th and the other on the 5th or 6th...how would that settle...as both being found on (by) the 6th?

good question bayou....

coast guard has announced they are suspending search today...

wow. if that were my loved one i'd be flippin out.

That survivor is going to face a real grilling over the next few weeks. Nobody is going to want to accept that two strong young men simply gave up their will to survive, but the story isn't unusual. Very few people would have the courage and mental toughness to cling to that boat for two long days with little hope of rescue in open water.

well, in addition to dehydration and hypothermia, you have to stay somewhat awake to actually cling to the boat. i wonder if they were so fatigued that a big wave just washed em away from the boat and they did not have the strength to swim back. it sounds like nick is saying they were with him up till just 4 or 5 hours before he was found.

and was he was found sitting on the motor, or at least it appears that way from the news i've saw. that was a great spot to be and there was only room for one. hope there wasn't some kinda power struggle for that seat.

@bayoubear - As stated in the background, the question is asking about both being found. So, I'd tend to lean towards settling once/if that were to happen (when criteria for both have been met).
When the question was created, I guess I was hoping for a more positive outcome and the possibility that the boat would be found with everyone together. Sadly, the chances are not looking good at this point as the searches have been called off and authorities have already told the families to prepare for the worst.

FWIW, I was at the beach on Saturday about 100 miles south of where the boat flipped, and, though the air temp was in the low 80s, that water was easily cold enough to sap the strength from even a professional athlete in not too many hours... No conspiracy, and no crime by Schuyler; just a group of under-prepared guys in a too-small boat going where they shouldn't ought to have gone.

The survivor is a fitness instructor who was in top physical condition and worked out every day. I am sure that helped.

They were all in remarkable shape. Two of the three that have likely perished were highly paid professional athletes, the other was an aspiring college athlete. What happens in the mind is far more important in a survival situation than the condition of the body, once you take into account basic fitness. The basic elements of survival is that a human being can live roughly 3 minutes without air, 3 hours without protection from the elements in a hostile environment, 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food. In this case, they were up against the wall on three out of four elements; surrounded by water to drown in, immersed in a fluid that constantly pulls away body heat, and the salt water pulling fluids from their body faster than if they were on dry land. The fact that one survived after 48 hours is remarkable; he's a rare breed that can keep it together in conditions like that. Unfortunately, his long-term survival is still at risk. The media will put him under immense pressure in the coming days and the risk of PTSD after an event like this, particularly with the delay in processing that the media can inflict, makes his recovery a challenging long road ahead.

A "bizarre" update to the story. The survivor reported that after a few hours, the 2 NFL players decided they'd had enough and removed their life jackets....

http://news.aol.com/article/missing-nfl-players/363480

I was living on a sailboat in Jewfish Creek in Key Largo with my cat. I had a 17' Boat I tied off the sailboat that due to the current in that creek would drift in and out from the bigger boat.

My cat, Pierce...a gorgeous Russian Blue, liked to jump from one boat to the other while playing. One night while I was sleeping he missed and went into the water. I was devastated but believed the cat had made it to shore. And it turns out he did. But despite me looking for him day and night and calling him, he wouldn't come out of his hiding spot.

10 days later he finally appeared and wandered into traffic on the bridge there and got hit. The salt water must have made him crazy....delusional is what I mean. That cat loved me like nobody's business and for him to have made land, cleaned himself off and then hid from me didn't make sense. Seems trauma in saltwater has a profound effect on the psyche.

mrperfkt, I saw that part of the story yesterday. There's an episode of "I shouldn't be alive" on Discovery where a gal was adrift at sea with three others and two of them did exactly the same thing. They jumped out of the life raft and tried to swim. Saltwater and the sea can make you crazy.

I just read an amazing story of survival called Red Sky in Mourning where a couple gets caught in a category 5 hurricane in the middle of the Pacific. The lady's will to survive was insatiable, yet less than 50 miles from rescue, she almost gave up, after 40 days alone at sea in a broken boat.

The Coast Guard may have given up, but the search continues...

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/29454121/

"jewfish creek"? Where is this river, germany?

@dragon ... again ignorance ...this body of water is in Florida where there is great fishing. If an attempt at humor it is not funny

I didn't find diesel's crack all that heart warming either. and people wonder why i have it in for old, white republicans.

cool, I lived in Jew Fish creek a little over a year on my sailboat on a mooring. Loved it...could hear the bands that played at Gilberts Tiki Bar wafting across the water....would take my little boat out to snorkel and fish....the Xmas Christmas parades....it was awesome. I used to swim with the manatees there. Good times, cept for losing my cat. That hurt.

Huh.. ordanarily id be yelling "GET A JOB HIPPY" right about now but i am worried that i wouldnt make the humor cut set by coolkraft.

@dragon...no comparison with get a job hippy and jewfish creek ...where is this river germany? when you get your foot out of your big mouth that will be a humor cut I will enjoy.

con2, we cruised and lived for many years on our sailboat; down from NY extensively in FL and to the Bahamas many times so I well versed in boating.

cool....good for you. i wonder if we ever met. i sailed the bahamas many times myself and kept the boat in jewfish for a bit over a year and in miami for 3 years. loved it, miss it, want to return to that lifestyle bad. it's not the same here in the pacific northwest, although the motorcycle riding is far superior. and i still have access to really cheap seafood.

but yeah, it's gonna be in my blood forever. perhaps my next husband will be a sailor, although it'll be harder to outlive this one. he's younger than me.

Maybe you can use your sailing skills to rescue these nfl players. If there still alive that is.

@dragon...now you have both feet in your mouth...what a ridiculously stupid, uncaring comment!!

Rediculous: Yes, Stupid: Probably, but uncaring? How do you figure?

dragon, you're truly despicable.

I guess so. But honestly is it wrong to admit the fact that these people are most likley dead?

yea thats alot worse than any comments conartist has ever made. shame on you dragonfang. as for my not so heart warming comment. i had to put "cat" in there to avoid getting in trouble. so now you know what i really ment. its ok if conartist makes "despicable" comments, but don't dare make any she disagree's with. typical hypocritical liberal.