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What is the primary cause of the crash of Air France Flight 447?

Background: On June 1st, 2009, Air France flight 447 (A330-200) crashed in the middle of the Atlantic ocean. All on board the plane perished (not confirmed when the question) is made .

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source. NOTE: WEATHER WILL NOT COUNT AS A FACTOR IN THE CRASH IN THIS QUESTION. For example, if lightning caused the fuel tank to explode, it will count as "other structural problems". Usually, plane crashes are usually a chain of events. Therefore, the first event (or error) that affects the ability for the plane to fly safely (except weather) would count as the primary cause of the crash. (Eg., if lightning cause the wing to break up therefore, causing a fuel and electrical problem, it would count as "other structural problem". However, if the pilot flew into thunderstorms which they have a good possibility to avoid the storm. That action caused the aircraft to break up. This scenario would count as pilot error.)

 
Forecast history %
pilot error
7%
weather-related system problems (radar etc.)
34%
automated control (fly-by wire, autopilot, etc.)
16%
engine/fuel/fuel system (except fuel tank) problem
2%
other electrical/ IT/ computer problems
10%
other structural problems (wing, fuselage, etc.)
4%
terrorist bombing
2%
none of the above (other)
25%
Question suspends in 6 years

Suspend date: Thu 31st Dec 2015 11:59pm PST (6 years to go)

Initial likelihoods: pilot error: 10%, weather-related system problems (radar etc.): 10%, automated control (fly-by wire, autopilot, etc.) : 10%, engine/fuel/fuel system (except fuel tank) problem: 10%, other electrical/ IT/ computer problems : 10%, other structural problems (wing, fuselage, etc.): 10%, terrorist bombing: 10%, none of the above (other): 30%

Action history:

Created Thu 4th Jun 1:22pm PST by big_red_dog_europa
Changed Question text Sat 4th Jul 8:25am PST by ryanj: show details
... is the (primary) cause of the crash of

Suspend date: Thu 31st Dec 2015 11:59pm PST (6 years to go) details

 

Predictions (93)

13 weeks ago
bout3fitty predicted weather-related system problems (radar etc.) (H$500 at 31%)
13 weeks ago
bigken1 predicted automated control (fly-by wire, autopilot, etc.) (H$100 at 17%)
20 weeks ago
bigken1 predicted none of the above (other) (H$100 at 25%)
20 weeks ago
bigken1 predicted pilot error (H$300 at 5%)
20 weeks ago
bigken1 predicted automated control (fly-by wire, autopilot, etc.) (H$100 at 19%)

Comments (8)

I like the way you have the Q worded, but 6 years is way too long of a suspend time.
posted 24 weeks ago
  2 onedave[Power User]
The flight did not have an autopilot when it crashed. Investigators are unsure if it malfunctioned or if the pilots turned it off.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6444498.ece
posted 24 weeks ago
  3 bigken1
The autopilot is made to turn off, if it gets conflicting wind speed measurements from the pitot tubes... These are not part of the autopilot. they are little tubes that take in wind (and can freeze up) and measure its velocity by the ram pressure.
posted 23 weeks ago
If a speed sensor was malfunctioning and that caused the pilots to fly faster that the plane's airframe could handle, does this question settle as "other structural problems"?
posted 23 weeks ago
i'll say "none of the above"
posted 23 weeks ago
  6 gyallis
6 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????/
posted 20 weeks ago
  7 bigken1
I like the question, however, I have a problem with the wording.. Perhaps HD staff can clarify..
If the options are not distinct (ie. if A, B, C, etc. do not exclude each other) then more than 1 can happen. If this is the case, how is the question settled? Are both (or more) awarded? If other means more than 1, this is another option, but that has not been stated, and bets have already been placed, so i think clarification might help.
posted 20 weeks ago
  8 kruijs[Power User]
hubdub question do not allow options which overlap. they must be mutual exclusive. hubdub does only allow questions which allow exactly one single outcome.
therefor: If a question cannot be settled on one single, distinct option, the question must be voided. In rare cases though, a double settlement is rewarded - solely to avoid voiding. (see http://www.hubdub.com/m11065/ "For the first time ever, the Bond theme will be a duet by Alicia Keys and Jack White. Both these options will be paid out.")
in this case, the question asks for the primary cause (which indicates the most important one). I can see that a combination of factors led to the crash - but in most situations there will be reported one main cause - see background text. On this, the question is most likely able to settle.
posted 20 weeks ago

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