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Will the 'Higgs boson' be discovered in the next year and by whom?

Current forecast: No (83% chance)
Combining all predictions, the current most likely outcome is No with a probability of 83% (unchanged in last 1 day)

The "father" of an elusive subatomic particle said Monday (Apr 7th 2008) he is almost sure it will be discovered in the next year in a race between powerful research equipment in the United States and Europe.
British physicist Peter Higgs, who more than 40 years ago postulated the existence of the particle in the makeup of the atom, said his visit to a new accelerator in Geneva over the weekend encouraged him that the so-called Higgs boson will soon be seen.
The $2 billion Large Hadron Collider, under construction since 2003, is expected to start operating by June at the European Laboratory for Particle Physics, which is known as CERN.
But Higgs said the particle may already have been created at the rival Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory outside Chicago, where the Tevatron is currently the world's most powerful particle accelerator.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jHNcslqYIgVd6MCa-D0Yz-X8UyLAD8VT9DL01


Settlement details: As reported by a major mainstream news source.

 
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Yes, by LHC
11%
Yes, by Tevatron
3%
No
83%
Other will happen
3%
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Suspend date: Wed 8th Apr 12:59am PDT (12 weeks to go)

Initial likelihoods: Yes, by LHC: 35%, Yes, by Tevatron: 35%, No: 20%, Other will happen: 10%

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Created Mon 7th Apr 2008 11:03pm PDT by orlin
Edited Tue 8th Apr 2008 12:13am PDT by tisha[Admin]
Settlement requested Wed 24th Sep 2008 2:44am PDT by rogerkni: See my comment #7. I suggest that persons who have voted for the two 1% possibilities have their bets voided, and that the question be settled as NO. There's no longer any betting interest in it--the result is a foregone conclusion.
Settlement requested Wed 24th Sep 2008 3:33am PDT by rogerkni: PS: The bettors who are voided or who lose could be told that they will be compensated if somehow their bets turn out to have been winners before the settlement date. Their bets are so small now that this wouldn't be any major undertaking to do. Their astronomically small concerns shouldn't prevent Hubdub from "clearing the decks" of this relic.

Suspend date: Wed 8th Apr 12:59am PDT (12 weeks to go)
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Predictions (248)

248 predictions

2 days ago
capecodviking predicted No (H$3 at 83%)
2 days ago
capecodviking predicted Other will happen (H$1 at 3%)
2 days ago
capecodviking predicted Yes, by LHC (H$1 at 11%)
2 days ago
bipedprimate predicted Yes, by Tevatron (H$20 at 3%)
2 days ago
arachne929 predicted No (H$100 at 84%)
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Comments (9)

  1 myunion
currently its a 44% chance the "God Particle" will be confirmed, but the 'Higgs boson' is at (yes for by LHC 26% and 27% think Yes, by Tevatron) 53% seems in my reconing that these numbers should be the same (if everybody that voted, voted that is on both questions) or there might be some people riding the fence here.
posted 39 weeks ago
  2 chatarra
I am not a scientist and cannot even try to speak like one,
but this article was informative at a layman's level.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7512586.stm
posted 24 weeks ago
  3 rogerkni
I voted No because in one of the stories I read on the LHC, it was stated that it wouldn't be run at its highest power level until sometime in 2009. I suspect it is only at, or close to, such elevated levels that unusual discoveries like the Higgs Boson will be made.
posted 20 weeks ago
  4 rogerkni
PS: Note that in the second paragraph of the introduction to this item, it was stated that the LHC at CERN was expected to start operating in June. Delays have put that back three months, meaning that Higgs's estimate of "within a year" has now had 25% of its operating time cut off.
posted 20 weeks ago
  5 tisha[Admin]
Stephen Hawking has a measly $100 on 'no' for the LHC!

Hawking bets CERN mega-machine won't find 'God's Particle' (Update)
http://www.physorg.com/news140161003.html
posted 17 weeks ago
  6 rogerkni
The latest delay, from the helium leak, cuts another two months (17%) from the operating time initially allotted for this bet, so only 58% of its year is left. Since what's left is at the front end of the LHC's long-term (multi-year) ramp up to full power, it's unlikely to be operating within those seven months at the high power needed to detect the Higgs boson.
posted 15 weeks ago
  7 rogerkni
Now it's been announced that this latest delay will be longer than first announced and will prevent restart of the LHC until "late March or early April" (see source-quotation below). Since it will take a month after restart before even test-run beam collisions occur, and many months (probably over three months, according to the original schedule) after that before the power of these collisions is increased to a level beyond that of existing colliders, and many months after that (maybe a year) until the LHC runs at full power, which is probably what it will take to detect the Higgs boson, detection by the LHC is astronomically unlikely before the settlement date of april 7, 2009.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article4813036.ece
From The [London] Times September 24, 2008
Large Hadron Collider must hibernate after wrong sort of big bang
Mark Henderson, Science Editor

On Friday the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) created the wrong sort of big bang — a fault so serious that CERN, the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, announced last night that the particle accelerator would have to be shut down until next spring for repairs. ........ It will take at least three to four weeks to warm the affected sector and then to open the damaged magnets for inspection, and then another month to re-chill them to their operating temperature. Even then, engineers will not be able to switch the LHC back on. The accelerator was always scheduled to be turned off for winter maintenance in December, and CERN officials confirmed last night that this was “obligatory” and would not be postponed.

No more beams of protons will be travelling around the collider’s 17-mile (27km) ring until early spring, and it will then be several weeks before it can start smashing them together to re-create the conditions of the big bang. Operations are likely to restart in late March or early April.
posted 15 weeks ago
  8 orlin
And what about the particle to be discovered by the american Tevatron? You apparently ignore this powerful accelerator which makes your predictions a little bit unilateral. Or you simply haven't read the question.
posted 15 weeks ago
  9 rogerkni
Oops--I just did a little google research and withdraw my request for a settlement. I doubt that the Tavatron will lasso this little rascal, though, and will make further NO bets once the LHC bettors have thrown in the towel (cashed in their bets) and improved the NO-vote odds.
posted 15 weeks ago

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