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Will Final Health Care Bill be posted online for at least 72 hours before vote on House floor?

Settled as No

Background: Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD that the speaker will not allow the final language of the health care to be posted online for 72 hours before bringing the bill to a vote on the House floor, despite her September 24 statement that she was "absolutely" committed to doing so.

House members are still negotiating important issues in the bill--whether it will provide taxpayer-funding for abortions, for example. Pelosi is pushing for a Saturday House vote, and a number of big changes will be introduced, likely less than 24 hours before the vote takes place (if in fact it does). The Rules Committee hasn't yet released its resolution, or rule, that must be passed before the bill can move from committee to the floor. The rule will set the terms of debate and determine what amendments are in order.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/11/pelosi_breaks_pledge_to_put_he.asp

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source.
Question creator wishes for the settlement date to be flexible based upon events rather than solely the date shown as suspend date below.

 
Forecast history %
Yes
26%
No
74%
Settled as No on Sat 7th Nov 11:21pm PST

Suspend date: Sun 27th Dec 11:59pm PST (4 weeks to go)
Settlement date: Sat 7th Nov 11:21pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Sat 7th Nov 8pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: Yes: 50%

Action history:

Created Thu 5th Nov 7:04pm PST by chatarra
Settlement requested Sat 7th Nov 8:35pm PST by Erik: "House passes health care bill"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091108/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul

It has not been posted online.

Please settle as 'No'.
Settled as 'No' Sat 7th Nov 11:21pm PST by destry[Admin]

Suspend date: Sun 27th Dec 11:59pm PST (4 weeks to go)
Settlement date: Sat 7th Nov 11:21pm PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Sat 7th Nov 8pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled details

 

Predictions (21)

2 weeks ago
modigs2000 predicted No (H$50 at 74%)
2 weeks ago
Erik predicted No (H$2,000 at 67%)
2 weeks ago
dnicolo1 predicted No (H$50 at 65%)
2 weeks ago
Erik predicted No (H$2,000 at 63%)
2 weeks ago
kennyk predicted No (H$1,000 at 60%)

Comments (10)

  1 dieseldog
hey erik - lets say the house passes a bill before the end of 2009. the senate doesn't pass one nor vote on the one the house passed in 2009. is the house bill then dead? meaning in 2010 they have to pass it again.
posted 2 weeks ago
  2 Erik
DD> I'm not certain.
The current congress, the 111th United States Congress, runs from January 3, 2009, until January 3, 2011 consisting of 2, 1 year sessions.

I believe that a bill is 'alive' for the length of the 111th, not just the 1st or 2nd session.

But, I'm gonna have to dig.
posted 2 weeks ago
  3 chatarra
To add further clarification about this question, my intentions are for the "final bill" to be the one being voted on today Saturday 11-7-09 in the House of Representatives. If the house does not come to a final vote today, I still wish for the outcome of this question to refer to the same bill scheduled to be voted on today. If for some reason, the bill is not voted on and then becomes drastically altered, changed or amended, then I would encourage the administrator of this question to contact me by email so that we can decide the best course of action together.

More info than I can begin to digest, is shown here:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/11/the_house_health_care_debate_w.html
The House begins debate at 9 a.m. Saturday on a massive health-insurance overhaul, with a final vote expected by the evening. In the intervening hours, there will be several key moments that will provide a foreshadowing of the final outcome.
posted 2 weeks ago
  4 Erik
DD> A bill is indeed 'alive' for the length of the 111th Congress, not just the 1st or 2nd session.
posted 2 weeks ago
  5 Erik
It will be interesting to see how House Republicams vote on the ‘Stupak amendment’, an amendment sponsored primarily by Representative Bart Stupak, Democrat of Michigan, who led a group of 40 Democrats that wrote a letter to Ms. Pelosi expressing their concerns about the abortion issue.

If this amendment becomes part of HR3962 it would be probable that those previously mentioned 40 Democrats would vote in favor of the bill.

If the amendment fails, many of those 40 would oppose final passage.

How will Republicans vote (if at all) on the Stupak amendment, which they favor?
posted 2 weeks ago
  7 Erik
probably should suspend this...
posted 2 weeks ago
  8 Erik
DD> Yes sir.
posted 2 weeks ago
  9 dieseldog
How will Republicans vote (if at all) on the Stupak amendment, which they favor

The measure was approved, 240 to 194, as 64 Democrats joined 176 Republicans to back the change.

wheres newt when you need him? defeat the amendment, likely the bill don't pass. oh well win some lose some. one step closer to seeing if the fed govt can mandate people to buy health insurance.
posted 2 weeks ago
  10 Erik
In re to my post #5:

“In the run-up to a final vote, conservatives from the two political parties joined forces to impose tough new restrictions on abortion coverage in insurance policies to be sold to many individuals and small groups. They prevailed on a roll call of 240-194.

Ironically, that only solidified support for the legislation, clearing the way for conservative Democrats to vote for it.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091108/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul

I’m truly suprised that Republicans voted for this measure.
I figured that the Republicans had the Democrats in a corner.
If the Stupak amendment failed, the consevative Dems (don’t laugh, bear with me, please) would be prone to vote against 3962.
As the article states, “Ironically, that only solidified support for the legislation, clearing the way for conservative Democrats to vote for it.”

Am I the only one that saw this, or am I missing something?
posted 2 weeks ago

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