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How many co-conspirators will be charged in the Fort Hood shooting by January 15, 2010?

Background: FORT HOOD, Texas - An Army psychiatrist set to be shipped overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood Army post Thursday, authorities said, a rampage that killed 12 people and left 31 wounded in the worst mass shooting ever at a military base in the United States.

The man was identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a 39-year-old, eight-year veteran from Virginia.

Cone said initially three people were held, and all have been interviewed. Authorities believe, however, that there was a single shooter.
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This story is relatively fresh and details have been changing by the hour. At this point things point toward a lone gunman, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, however, new facts could develop as time goes on. The question is how many people besides Hasan will be charged in connection with the shooting?

Individuals must be charged with a crime related to the shooting. If a grand jury has convened but has not completed its investigation, question may be extended, otherwise, suspension date is settlement date.

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source.

Category Editor Clarification: Option #1 ("None-Nobody else charged") means that only Maj. Hasan or nobody will be charged. Option #2 ("One or two suspects charged") means that one or two others beside Maj. Hasan will be charged (whether or not Maj. Hasan himself is charged). Option #3 ("Three or more suspects charged") means that three or more others beside Major Hasan will be charged (whether or not Maj. Hasan himself is charged).

 
Forecast history %
None-Nobody else charged
96%
One or two suspects charged
3%
Three or more suspects charged
1%
Question suspends in 7 weeks

Suspend date: Fri 15th Jan 2010 1:59am PST (7 weeks to go)

Initial likelihoods: None-Nobody else charged: 80%, One or two suspects charged: 15%, Three or more suspects charged: 5%

Action history:

Created Thu 5th Nov 7:28pm PST by frogchop
Settlement requested Fri 6th Nov 2:15pm PST by bout3fitty: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/us/07forthood.html?_r=1&hp

Major Hasan is the sole suspect, after three others who were immediately taken in custody were released.

Suspend date: Fri 15th Jan 2010 1:59am PST (7 weeks to go) details

 

Predictions (34)

5 days ago
kennyk predicted None-Nobody else charged (H$300 at 96%)
6 days ago
wahsfrog predicted Three or more suspects charged (H$20 at 0%)
6 days ago
wahsfrog predicted One or two suspects charged (H$20 at 3%)
1 week ago
ociana predicted None-Nobody else charged (H$100 at 97%)
1 week ago
htlsales predicted One or two suspects charged (H$20 at 5%)

Comments (12)

This is Mr Obama's idea of how to give a statement on the tragic crime that had just happened in Fort Hood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fNN_ETf50o

Words fail.
posted 2 weeks ago
  2 randburg
I see a possible problem here with the options offered. Option one indicates that one person will be charged but no one ELSE will be charged with him. No co-conspirators. Option two also indicates one (or two) suspects charged. I don't think so.

I understand the question as follows: Co-conspirators indicate two or more people working together.

The first option "none -- nobody ELSE charged" indicates that a sole shooter will be charged by himself. No one ELSE -- no second person or possible co-conspirator -- will be charged. No co-conspirator.

The second option "one or two suspects charged" indicates that TWO or THREE people TOTAL (one shooter plus one or two additional co-conspirators) will be charged.

The third option indicates that possibility that still more co-conspirators could be discovered as the investigation continues, which of course is possible.

To summarize:

Option one: one person is charged. Option two: two or three people are charged. Option three: four or more are charged.

This is how I placed my bets. Do I understand correctly? Thanks.
posted 2 weeks ago
  3 sqlman[Admin]
Thanks, randburg. I've just added a clarification:

Category Editor Clarification: Option #1 ("None-Nobody else charged") means that only Maj. Hasan or nobody will be charged. Option #2 ("One or two suspects charged") means that one or two others beside Maj. Hasan will be charged (whether or not Maj. Hasan himself is charged). Option #3 ("Three or more suspects charged") means that three or more others beside Major Hasan will be charged (whether or not Maj. Hasan himself is charged).
posted 2 weeks ago
Good to see ole "Blood & Guts" Frogchop on the ball with this question.
posted 2 weeks ago
  5 cici
I had no idea Froggy was ole "Blood & Guts", thanks for letting me in on that. But, I see he still has no fear about jumping in on a developing news story. Good for him.
posted 2 weeks ago
  6 kruijs[Power User]
Quick!!

What about a question whether Obama is linked to this shooting!! Obama is Muslim, you know!? And he wants to destroy the nation!! He is Hitler!!one!



oh, wait,

WND already "proved" it.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200911060011

damn.
posted 2 weeks ago
  7 randburg
Thank you Jim for the excellent clarification. Your wording is better, more concise, and clearer than mine. Also your clarification points out -- quite correctly -- that the question is ONLY about the co-conspirators (and not the shooter).
posted 2 weeks ago
  8 kruijs[Power User]
"To me, the accused Fort Hood shooter has more in common with the murderous duo in Columbine High. He's a Palestinian-American version of Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold; a neglected, frustrated, impotent, sociopath who attempts to couch his murderous rampage in the psycho-babble of larger purpose. And by using the lingo of our hated Al Qaeda enemy, mass-killer Hasan has succeeded in sowing doubt and disruption into our multi-cultural military. We have to get through this, together."

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/11/06/geraldo-rivera-ft-hood-hasan-murder-muslim/
posted 1 week ago
@kruijs:

This question is about the co-conspirators.
posted 1 week ago
Geraldo is funny. I see more in common with these examples:

"Sgt. Asan Akbar, a Muslim American soldier with the 326th Engineer Battalion, had an "attitude problem."

According to his superiors and acquaintances, Akbar's attitude was bitterly anti-American and staunchly pro-Muslim. So how did this devout follower of the so-called Religion of Peace work out his attitudinal problems last weekend?

By lobbing hand grenades and aiming his M-4 automatic rifle into three tents filled with sleeping commanding officers at the 101st Airborne Division's 1st Brigade operations center in Kuwait.

Akbar is the lone suspect being detained in the despicable attack, which left more than a dozen wounded and one dead. Surviving soldiers say Akbar, found cowering in a bunker with shrapnel injuries, was overheard ranting after the assault: "You guys are coming into our countries, and you're going to rape our women and kill our children."

"Our"? At least there's no doubt about where this Religion of Peace practitioner's true loyalties lie.

Naturally, apologists for Islam-gone-awry are hard at work dismissing this traitorous act of murder as an "isolated, individual act and not an expression of faith." But such sentiments are willfully blind and recklessly p.c.

Sgt. Akbar is not the only MSWA -- Muslim soldier with attitude -- suspected of infiltrating our military, endangering our troops and undermining national security:

-- Ali A. Mohamed. Mohamed, a major in the Egyptian army, immigrated to the U.S. in 1986 and joined the U.S. Army while a resident alien. This despite being on a State Department terrorist watch list before securing his visa. An avowed Islamist, he taught classes on Muslim culture to U.S. Special Forces at Fort Bragg, N.C., and obtained classified military documents. He was granted U.S. citizenship over the objections of the CIA.

A former classmate, Jason T. Fogg, recalled that Mohamed was openly critical of the American military. "To be in the U.S. military and have so much hate toward the U.S. was odd. He never referred to America as his country."

Soon after he was honorably discharged from the Army in 1989, Mohamed hooked up with Osama bin Laden as an escort, trainer, bagman and messenger. Mohamed used his U.S. passport to conduct surveillance at the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi; he later pled guilty to conspiring with bin Laden to "attack any Western target in the Middle East" and admitted his role in the 1998 African embassy bombings that killed more than 200 people, including a dozen Americans.

Ain't multiculturalism grand?

-- Semi Osman. An ethnic Lebanese born in Sierra Leone and a Seattle-based Muslim cleric, Osman served in a naval reserve fueling unit based in Tacoma, Wash. He had access to fuel trucks similar to the type used by al Qaeda in the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers, which killed 19 U.S. airmen and wounded nearly 400 other Americans.

Osman was arrested last May as part of a federal investigation into the establishment of a terrorist training camp in Bly, Oregon. Osman recently pleaded guilty to a weapons violation, and the feds dropped immigration charges against him in exchange for his testimony

ohn Muhammad. The accused Beltway sniper and Muslim convert was a member of the Army's 84th Engineering Company. In an eerie parallel to the Akbar case, Muhammad is suspected of throwing a thermite grenade into a tent housing 16 of his fellow soldiers as they slept before the ground-attack phase of Gulf War I in 1991. Muhammad's superior, Sgt. Kip Berentson, told both Newsweek and The Seattle Times that he immediately suspected Muhammad, who was "trouble from day one."

Curiously, Muhammad was admitted to the Army despite being earlier court-martialed for willfully disobeying orders, striking another noncommissioned officer, wrongfully taking property, and being absent without leave while serving in the Louisiana National Guard.

Although Muhammad was led away in handcuffs and transferred to another company pending charges for the grenade attack, an indictment never materialized. Muhammad was honorably discharged from the Army in 1994. Eight years later, he was arrested in the 21-day Beltway shooting spree that left 10 dead and three wounded.

Ain't tolerance grand?

-- Jeffrey Leon Battle. A former Army reservist, Battle was indicted in October 2002 for conspiring to levy war against the United States and "enlisting in the Reserves to receive military training to use against America." According to the Justice Department, he planned to wage war against American soldiers in Afghanistan.

Ain't diversity grand?

"It's bad enough we have to worry about enemy forces, but now we have to worry about our own guys," Spc. Autumn Simmer told the Los Angeles Times this week after the assault on the 101st Airborne. The Islamist infiltration of our troops is scandalous. Not one more American, soldier or civilian, must be sacrificed at the altar of multiculturalism, diversity, open borders, and tolerance of the murderous "attitude" of Jihad."

http://townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2003/03/26/mswa_muslim_soldiers_with_attitude
posted 1 week ago
  11 sqlman[Admin]
11/08: "Military investigators have concluded that there was only one gunman involved in the rampage at Fort Hood that left 13 people dead and dozens more injured, but they added that they were still trying to determine whether other people were involved in any plot, an Army spokesman said on Saturday."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/us/08forthood.html
posted 1 week ago
  12 sqlman[Admin]
@drzinternet: Timothy Mcveigh was a white, Christian, Republican ex-Army guy. To paraphrase the ignorant and racist article to which you linked: "The conservative infiltration of our troops is scandalous. Not one more American, soldier or civilian, must be sacrificed at the altar of rabid anti-government rhetoric, church membership, runaway gun ownership, and tolerance of the murderous 'attitude' of 'conservatism'."

Gee, that sure does sound ignorant, doesn't it?
posted 1 week ago

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