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Background: As the death toll in the Ft. Hood shooting rampage rose to 13, new details emerged today about the timeline of the attack -- and the character of the Army psychiatrist accused of carrying it out.

The shooting, which also left 30 wounded, came down to a gunfight between the suspect, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, and a 35-year-old Army police officer named Kimberly Munley, said Chuck Medley, Ft. Hood's director of emergency services.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-fort-hood-shootings7-2009nov07,0,1269467.story

Kim Munley's Twitter Page:
http://twitter.com/@hope2forget30

Link to ABC World News report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOD2CsrOwW8

Settlement details:As reported by a major mainstream news source. Ms. Munley would have to meet President Obama in person before December 1 for settlement as YES.

 
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Yes
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Settled as No on Tue 1st Dec 2009 3:03am PST

Suspend date: Mon 30th Nov 2009 11:59pm PST
Settlement date: Tue 1st Dec 2009 3:03am PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 30th Nov 2009 11:59pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: Yes: 50%

Action history:

Created Fri 6th Nov 2009 7:06pm PST by lola
Settlement requested Wed 11th Nov 2009 12am PST by randburg: http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?fromspage=ch/c.htm&categoryid=&only=y&pnum=4&bfromind=8326&eeid=6922235&_sitecat=1504&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=0&ck=&ch=ne&ch=ne

"Obama and first lady Michelle Obama devoted considerable time to three private meetings with those affected by the shooting rampage, meeting first with families of those killed, then with some of those wounded and their families, and later with those still hospitalized."

Did he meet Kim Munley on Tuesday in conjunction with the Fort Hood Memorial?
Suspended Mon 30th Nov 2009 11:59pm PST : Suspend date reached
Settlement requested Tue 1st Dec 2009 2:06am PST by chatarra: This can be settled as "NO".
The highest ranking member of the administration to meet Kimberly Munley was Secretary of Defense, Robert M. Gates.

http://www.google.com/news/search?aq=f&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=kim+munley+meets+obama

http://www.ecoworld.com/photos/other-photographs/defense-secretary-gates-visits-victims-ft-hood-shooting-texas.html

Suspend date: Mon 30th Nov 2009 11:59pm PST
Settlement date: Tue 1st Dec 2009 3:03am PST
Prediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Mon 30th Nov 2009 11:59pm PST have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled details

 

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Comments (11)

Let's not forget the other hero, Senior Sgt. Mark Todd who also responded when Kim Munley did. Although I understand some of the rush to heap praise on Mrs Munley for her courage, I just don't want to see the equally courageous Sgt Todd be ignored for his effective response in neutralizing this terrorist.
posted 19 weeks ago
Sgt. Munley is in the hospital, recovering from her injuries. Would she be well enough to visit the White House by December 1st, if invited? If not, will President Obama travel to Texas and meet her while there? I'm betting No and No... but I've been wrong before!
posted 19 weeks ago
  3 lola
Obamas to attend Fort Hood memorial Tuesday
November 7, 2009 | Reuters via the Washington Post

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, will attend a memorial service in Fort Hood, Texas, on Tuesday for victims of a mass shooting. The White House announced the trip on Saturday. Obama is scheduled to depart on Wednesday on an Asia tour.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/07/AR2009110702083.html
posted 19 weeks ago
Thanks Lola!
posted 19 weeks ago
  5 joelp
Agree with you entirely notablenotices - he has had some mentions in the press, but certainly Kim Munley is the overriding focal point. There's a good reason she is, but credit should be given where credit is due.
posted 18 weeks ago
The American public has trouble concentrating on more than one thing at a time. But it sure would be nice if the press would recognize all who responded.
posted 18 weeks ago
  7 randburg
http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?fromspage=ch/c.htm&categoryid=&only=y&pnum=4&bfromind=8326&eeid=6922235&_sitecat=1504&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=0&ck=&ch=ne&ch=ne

"Obama and first lady Michelle Obama devoted considerable time to three private meetings with those affected by the shooting rampage, meeting first with families of those killed, then with some of those wounded and their families, and later with those still hospitalized."

That SOUNDS like he made a point of meeting everyone involved in the shooting. Did he meet Kim Munley on Tuesday in conjunction with the Fort Hood Memorial?
posted 18 weeks ago
  8 sqlman[Admin]
I've looked through a number of articles, and haven't found one that specifically states that Obama met with Munley (most of the one-on-one meetings were in private and out of view of cameras, which really throws a dent in the right wing picture of Obama as a media whore/photo opportunist). Munley is scheduled to be on Oprah today; we may hear whether such a meeting did take place.

Anyway, thank God the United States still doesn't officially allow women in full active combat roles; Kim Mundy is further proof that females, lacking the ability and willingness to shoot anyone, would simply wilt if faced with live fire. They'd be ineffective at best, and detrimental to mission success at worst. :-\
posted 18 weeks ago
  9 cici
In U.K. Guardian, Munley says she was visited by Robert Gates Tuesday, Secy of Defense.
posted 18 weeks ago
  10 chatarra
I also searched the news for articles about Munley meeting with Obama. None to be found.
Not a surprise to me - he has always had a disdain for the military.
(I am going to make a bundle on this question - finally)

However, I applaud his demeanor at Arlington today, while honoring the tradition of laying the wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier.
posted 18 weeks ago
  11 chatarra
@NN # 1,
Good job, mate.

As it turns out, Sgt. Kimberly D. Munley, the Ft. Hood Army Base police officer who was credited as a hero for taking down Maj. Nidal Hasan, the accused killer of 13 people, may not have actually shot Hasan.
But she will still be considered courageous in the eyes of many people for chasing the alleged gunman in order to stop the rampage.

As it turns out, another officer who responded to the emergency, Senior Sgt Mark Todd, is being credited by an eyewitness for putting Hasan on his back. The New York Times interviewed Todd on Thursday.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/11/ft_hood_officer_who_really_sho.html
posted 18 weeks ago

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