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DJIA Texas Holdem Poker: BIG SLICK vs JACK-10 SUITED

Settled as JACK-10 SUITED Wins

Jack-10 wins it with a Queen-Jack high flush of Hearts
QH JH 10H 7H 3H

Background:

Hole Cards:
BIG SLICK - Ace of Clubs & King of Diamonds
JACK-10 SUITED - Jack of Hearts & Ten of Hearts

REMAINING CARDS (Hole Cards Removed):
1-12: -2345678910JQK of Clubs
13-24: A2345678910JQ- of Diamonds
25-37: A2345678910JQK of Spades
38-48: A23456789--QK of Hearts

The last four digits of the DJIA will be used to select the cards. These four digits will be used as a percent (00.00%-99.99%) and multiplied by the number of cards remaining in the deck. For example, if the dow closes at 12946.29, 46.29% would be multiplied by 48 (the remaining # of cards). 48*46.29%=22.22 which is card #22: 10 of Diamonds. In this example scenario the 10 of Diamonds would then be removed from the deck prior to calculating the next card. Our next random number would be multiplied by the remaining cards, 47 to select the next card.

Cards to be calculated/removed from deck:
Monday May 12 - FLOP Card #1: 48*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Tuesday May 13 - FLOP Card #2: 47*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Wednesday May 14 - FLOP Card #3: 46*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Thursday May 15 - TURN Card: 45*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Friday May 16 - RIVER Card: 44*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%

Initial odds using Poker Calculator at Cardplayer.com: http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_odds/texas_holdem

BIG SLICK Wins: 58.61%
JACK-10 SUITED Wins: 40.97%
These 2 hands tie: 0.42%

Yahoo finance will be used to determine the DJIA values:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=^DJI (Copy/Paste into your browsers' address bar)

All Texas Holdem Poker rules apply

Each evening I will post the results of the cards selected in the comments section (unless someone beats me to it, in which case I/we will verify their calculations).


Settlement details: DJIA Daily Close source. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=^DJI

Monday May 12 - FLOP Card #1: 48*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Tuesday May 13 - FLOP Card #2: 47*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Wednesday May 14 - FLOP Card #3: 46*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Thursday May 15 - TURN Card: 45*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Friday May 16 - RIVER Card: 44*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%

 
Forecast history, %
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Settled

BIG SLICK Wins
70%
JACK-10 SUITED Wins
30%
These 2 hands tie
0%
Activity: H$7,418
Settled as JACK-10 SUITED Wins on Sat 17th May 2008 2:52am PDT

Suspend date: Wed 14th May 2008 11:59pm PDT Settlement date: Sat 17th May 2008 2:52am PDTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Wed 14th May 2008 11:59pm PDT have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled

Initial likelihoods: BIG SLICK Wins: 58%, JACK-10 SUITED Wins: 41%, These 2 hands tie: 1%

Action history:

Created Sat 10th May 2008 10:18pm PDT by fingers_of_fury
Suspended Wed 14th May 2008 11:59pm PDT : Suspend date reached
Settlement requested Fri 16th May 2008 7:26pm PDT by fingers_of_fury: Please Settle as: JACK-10 SUITED Wins

Note to Admin:
If you don't enjoy math &/or poker, Hubdub's math guru, Andrew, settled the last game, so he understands this format.

Cards calculated then removed from deck:
Monday May 12:
FLOP Card #1: 48(cards)*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Tuesday May 13:
FLOP Card #2: 47(cards)*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Wednesday May 14:
FLOP Card #3: 46(cards)*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Thursday May 15:
TURN Card #4: 45(cards)*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Friday May 16:
RIVER Card#5: 44(cards)*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%

DJIA Closes May 12-16:
Mon: 12,876.05 - Last 4 as % = 76.05% * 48 = 37
Tue: 12,832.18 - Last 4 as % = 32.18% * 47 = 15
Wed: 12,898.38 - Last 4 as % = 98.38% * 46 = 45
Thu: 12,992.66 - Last 4 as % = 92.66% * 45 = 42
Fri: 12,986.80 - Last 4 as % = 86.80% * 44 = 38

So the drawn cards are: 37, 15, 45, 42, 38

As drawn they are removed from deck.

Monday's deck:
REMAINING CARDS (Hole Cards Removed):
1-12: -2345678910JQK of Clubs
13-24: A2345678910JQ- of Diamonds
25-37: A2345678910JQK of Spades
38-48: A23456789--QK of Hearts

Card 37 = KS

Tuesday's deck:
REMAINING CARDS (Hole & Mon cards Removed):
1-12: -2345678910JQK of Clubs
13-24: A2345678910JQ- of Diamonds
25-36: A2345678910JQ- of Spades
37-47: A23456789--QK of Hearts

Card 15 = 3D

Wednesday's deck:
Remaining Cards (Hole & Mon-Tue cards removed):
1-12: -2345678910JQK of Clubs
13-23: A2-45678910JQ- of Diamonds
24-35: A2345678910JQ- of Spades
36-46: A23456789--QK of Hearts

Card 45 = QH

Thursday's deck:
Remaining Cards (Hole & Mon-Tue-Wed cards removed):
1-12: - 2345678910JQK of Clubs
13-23: A2 - 45678910JQ - of Diamonds
24-35: A2345678910JQ - of Spades
36-45: A23456789 - - -K of Hearts

Card 42 = 7H

Friday's deck:
Remaining Cards (Hole & Mon-Tue-Wed-Thu cards removed):
1-12: - 2345678910JQK of Clubs
13-23: A2 - 45678910JQ - of Diamonds
24-35: A2345678910JQ - of Spades
36-44: A23456 - 89 - - - K of Hearts

Card 38 = 3H


Hole Cards:
BIG SLICK - Ace of Clubs & King of Diamonds
JACK-10 SUITED - Jack of Hearts & Ten of Hearts

The 5 Drawn Cards:
KS, 3D, QH, 7H, 3H

BIG SLICK'S best hand:
Pair of Kings

JACK-10 SUITED's best hand:
Flush of Hearts

JACK-10 Wins!!!
Settled as 'JACK-10 SUITED Wins' Sat 17th May 2008 2:52am PDT by andrew: Jack-10 wins it with a Queen-Jack high flush of Hearts
QH JH 10H 7H 3H

Suspend date: Wed 14th May 2008 11:59pm PDT Settlement date: Sat 17th May 2008 2:52am PDTPrediction cut-off: Predictions on this question after Wed 14th May 2008 11:59pm PDT have been voided because they were made after the question could be settled
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Predictions (25)

25 predictions

34 weeks ago
vankev63 predicted JACK-10 SUITED Wins (H$20 at 26%)
34 weeks ago
vankev63 predicted JACK-10 SUITED Wins (H$50 at 26%)
34 weeks ago
valornhonor[Power User] predicted JACK-10 SUITED Wins (H$25 at 25%)
34 weeks ago
lucidstates predicted BIG SLICK Wins (H$100 at 75%)
34 weeks ago
jenniandboys[Admin] predicted BIG SLICK Wins (H$50 at 71%)
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Comments (26)

Date Close
12-May-08 12,876.05

76.05% * 48 cards = card #36.5 rounded to 37

KING of SPADES!!!

Big Slick is now a HUGE favorite... which explains the jump to 71%... it's nice to see that some of you calculated this yourselves instead of waiting on me.

The Poker Calculator on cardplayer.com requires a complete FLOP (3 cards) before it will calculate the new odds, so I'll post new odds after Wednesday's card is drawn.
posted 34 weeks ago
REMAINING CARDS (Hole Cards & King of Spades Removed):
1-12: -2345678910JQK of Clubs
13-24: A2345678910JQ- of Diamonds
25-36: A2345678910JQ- of Spades
37-47: A23456789--QK of Hearts

Tomorrow's last four digit of the DJIA close as a percent will be multiplied by 47 cards to select the next card.
posted 34 weeks ago
DUDE I LOOOOOOVE THESE QUESTIONS!!! ... I must say, THE MOST unique question on HubDub by far!!! Awesome, totally awesome my friend! :-D ... Please, please, please, keep em coming :-D
posted 34 weeks ago
Call me a contrarian, can't resist bucking the odds on this one.
posted 34 weeks ago
  5 vankev63
What a sweet ?????????????????? Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted 34 weeks ago
  6 kasulked
what's the 2nd card of the flop, what's the 2nd card of the flop, oh my I can't wait to find out the 2nd card of the flop!!!!!!!
posted 34 weeks ago
13-May-08 Close 12,832.18

32.18%*47cards = 15.12

Card #15 is 3 of Diamonds

Not much help to either hand... BIG SLICK still favored to win

Remaining Cards (Hole and Drawn cards removed):
1-12: -2345678910JQK of Clubs
13-23: A2-45678910JQ- of Diamonds
24-35: A2345678910JQ- of Spades
36-46: A23456789--QK of Hearts

Tomorrow's last four digits close as a % multiplied by 46 remaining cards.

Flop so far:
KS,3D
posted 34 weeks ago
@vankev63 & kasulked - I'm glad you're enjoying it!

@valornhonor - It is FUN to chase =)
posted 34 weeks ago
@lucidstates - Thank you for the compliment... this is fun... glad you like it too!
posted 34 weeks ago
  10 kasulked
I think what could be fun some time is let the S&P and the NASDAQ determine the 2 hands and then use the DOW for the flop, turn, & the all important river. either way this is so much fun. I am a poker junkie...
posted 34 weeks ago
Hi kasulked, Great idea! I'm going to stick with the DJIA for my poker questions, but would LOVE it if you or anyone else created S&P Poker or NASDAQ Poker or any other combination/ideas.

The last one we did used the DJIA to select the hole cards:
http://www.hubdub.com/m6764/DJIA_Texas_Holdem_Poker_Match_hilo_vs_openclose_week_of_May_5th_2008

Also, I must give credit/thanks to Hubdubbob for starting the DJIA Poker Games. Check out his questions for more Poker related markets:
http://www.hubdub.com/e/User/_693

I'm thinking about making next week's DJIA Texas Holdem question: "Pocket Rockets VS 9 Hands: Will the Aces Hold Up?" The odds of Pocket Aces winning drops significantly against that many hands, depending of course on the hands it plays against.

I'm a poker junkie too... and a news junkie as well... Hubdub is a GREAT place for poker & news junkies =)
posted 34 weeks ago
  12 dieseldog
gotta give you credit fingers..you run these questions well. i might try to play the next one. still trying to learn the ins and outs. goodluck betters.
posted 34 weeks ago
14-May-08 Close 12,898.38

(Last 4 digits)% * 46 remaining cards:
98.38%*46=45.25
Card #45 is Queen of Hearts

FLOP as of Wed Day 3:
KS,3D,QH

New Odds using Poker Calculator at cardplayer.com:
BIG SLICK: 68.48%
JACK-10 SUITED: 31.52%
posted 34 weeks ago
Remaining Cards (Hole and Drawn cards removed):
1-12: - 2345678910JQK of Clubs
13-23: A2 - 45678910JQ - of Diamonds
24-35: A2345678910JQ - of Spades
36-45: A23456789 - - - K of Hearts

Tomorrow's last four digits close as a % multiplied by 45 remaining cards.
posted 34 weeks ago
Jack-10 suited now has an open ended straight draw!!!

There are four 9s and three Aces out of 45 cards, so 7 out of 45 cards are available to complete the straight.
posted 34 weeks ago
I forgot to include the percentage of times these hands tie (comment 13 above)

Hole cards: AC-KD vs JH-10H
Flop cards: KS,3D,QH

New Odds using Poker Calculator at cardplayer.com:
BIG SLICK: 68.48%
JACK-10 SUITED: 31.52%
TIE: 0%
posted 34 weeks ago
  17 vankev63
come on 9,ace LOL
posted 33 weeks ago
  18 kasulked
we have to wait for fingers to verify but I think the turn is a 7 of hearts so J-10 now has a straight draw or a flush draw.... come on river!!!!!
posted 33 weeks ago
15-May-08 Close: 12,992.66

92.66%*45=41.697

Card #42 is 7 of Hearts

Flop & Turn: KS,3D,QH,7H

New Odds using Poker Calculator at cardplayer.com:
BIG SLICK: 68.18%
JACK-10 SUITED: 31.82%
TIE: 0%

Remaining Cards (Hole and Drawn cards removed):
1-12: - 2345678910JQK of Clubs
13-23: A2 - 45678910JQ - of Diamonds
24-35: A2345678910JQ - of Spades
36-44: A23456 - 89 - - - K of Hearts

Tomorrow's last four digits close as a % multiplied by 44 remaining cards.
posted 33 weeks ago
@kasulked - you are right!!!!!!!!!

There are 9 Hearts left out of 44 cards that would complete the Flush, and 2 Aces & 3 Nines (not counting the Ace and Nine of Hearts because they count toward the better Flush draw)

So 5 cards for the Straight plus the 9 Hearts is 14 out of 44 cards. 14/44= 0.318181818 or 31.82% chance for Jack-10 Suited to win.

I provided the calculations in this comment for users that might be new to Texas Holdem and/or users interested in learning the ins-n-outs of calculating odds. I could also provide examples of how Pot Odds would effect this hand if anyone's interested. Pot Odds are fascinating and quite possibly MORE important than the odds of winning the hand.
posted 33 weeks ago
  21 kasulked
I hope I am right but I think the river is a 3 of hearts, that would mean that big slick just got rivered. Of course Fingers will have to be the official word. God I love this question ;P
posted 33 weeks ago
@kasulked - you are RIGHT, 3 of Hearts, BIG SLICK rivered by Jack-10 of Hearts... I lost H$500 on this =(

but it was FUN! =)
posted 33 weeks ago
Date Close
16-May-08 12,986.80

86.80%*44= 38.19 Card #38 is the 3 of Hearts

JACK-10 of Hearts takes down BIG SLICK!!!
posted 33 weeks ago
I'm preparing the daily calculations for the week to provide the explanation for settlement...

It will take me a few minutes to prepare, and then I'll request settlement.
posted 33 weeks ago
  25 vankev63
I love it!! I went with the underdog hope to see this ? again soon!!
posted 33 weeks ago
  26 hubdubbob
LOL, I had the Jack-10 picked, but cashed it in for about a 50% loss. :(
posted 33 weeks ago

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