What will be the age of the next celebrity to die?

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haha yeah

WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

This question is TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE and obviously only refers to persons that ryanb37 regards as "someone with fame". Even if we allow additional adjudicators of WHO is "someone with fame", we will still be limited to the viewpoints of a handful of people. There are celebrities in every walk of life, including (but not limited to): entertainment, sports, arts, politics, science, business, education, etc, etc. And then all of these amazing categories are found in every country around the world. Dozens of celebrities are dieing (and being born) every day...

And if it were not difficult enough to determine WHO is a celebrity, how would it be possible through newspaper reports to determine which of possibly hundreds of celebrities who died today died first? (So that we could try to determine their age...)

And that only refers to "national celebrities"...What about local celebrities? The problems with the word "celebrity" or "someone with fame" are endless...

agreed

Can we change the word celebrity to ACTOr/ Musician/ Politician/ Internationaly known person

READ THE FLAG

Whoa -- the President of Mexico is not a celebrity?? I beg to differ. That would get plenty of press.

How about something like: At least 4 of these 5 major newssources has to cover the story (NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, ABC)

AAA - strangly, it was not the question creator who said that Mugabe is a celebrity but Mexican president is not -- it was Ryan.

I agree the settlement needs a little tightening though.

I agree jenn MExican preZ would be a well known famous person I think people get me and the admin ryan confused alot

And PLEASE note I AM the questions creator and I NEVER said that statement Super user said AGAIN no one ask me anything
theres an example of a super user using their power incorectly

AVERAGEAMERICAN i never said that be more clear on what you say dont post stuff without knowing it makes you and me look stupid

Take the example off that is not needed

We gotta figure out some way of clarifying this, and I'd rather leave it you guys. Cause me and clarifying haven't worked out well this week. Anyone have any ideas?

It's not a bad question it's just a pain to define celebrity. I really can't think of how to do it.

Regards,

Ryan
Hubdub Category Editor

@Ryanj - I'll repeat my suggestion:
How about something like: At least 4 of these 5 major newssources have to cover the story (NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, ABC)

@ryanb37 - AAA just made a simple mistake, I hope you can cut him a little slack. We're all here to have fun.

Every country, every locale, every societal group, etc has it's own celebrities. Basic Sociology 101. The local bonsai master (TREES not kung fu) is a celebrity in his/her circle.

Perhaps the author had an idea something like: ANYONE HONORED to walk down a red carpet. But that's not going to "cut it" either. The Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury, George Bush, and Senator Craig will all be delighted...as well as thousands of grads this year, numerous participants in church services, official visitors to Buckingham Palace, etc. The problem is that we honor numerous people all the time, and that most of us have probably been a celebrity at some time in our lives under certain circumstances.

Until this question becomes much more specific, it doesn't stand a chance. And many celebrities in many groups have already passed away since the formation of this question.

Some examples of what 'celebrity' could be replaced with.
'major motion picture leading or supporting actor'.
'professional sports figure'.
'major TV network news anchor'

The problem with this question is that everybody has local celebrities that are not well known elsewhere. I'm certain my local weather lady gets much attention most everywhere she goes but it wouldn't be fair for me to ask this question to settle if, god forbid, something happened to her.

I hope ryanb37 can clarify this question before it requires a void.

I'm going to email ryanb with Jenni's suggestion so let's see if that will be sufficient.

Regards,

Ryan
Hubdub Category Editor

I talked it over with tri and he had another suggestion -- what if we choose just one settlement source -- say people.com -- and rephrase the question "What will be the age of the next celebrity to die as reported by People.com?"

Yes, I can see this question hitting the fan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qujwrcWN56Y

@mork - DEFINITELY a celebrity!!!
I doubt anyone complains when she stands in the middle blocking the weather stats behind her

I like Jennis Idea of being reported on multiple sites and People.com also is a good idea you guys decide Just please dont void it

i believe there must be like a site somewhere with a list of a bunch of celebrities
how bout we say the next person on the site list that dies?

If you need a red carpet type Western celebrity, here is one for you, and this question can be closed:

http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?pnum=1&bfromind=7406&eeid=5907100&_sitecat=1505&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=0&ck=&ch=ne&rg=blsadstrgt&_lid=332&_lnm=tg+ne+topnews&ck=

I've been busy all afternoon and just noticed that I seem to have caused some controversy. I stand by my comment that "celebrity" cannot be unambiguously settled, but apologize to ryan37 for inadvertently attributing ryanj's edit to his question as his statement.

OTOH, there are a lot of Mexicans who consider Felipe Calderon a celebrity.

Sorry randburg I disagree. YSL is not a celebrity in Kathmandu or Teheran. That's the whole problem with this question.

Does Yves Saint Laurent dies at 71 count(AP).

Gretmatta.. our settlement requests passed each other in cyberspace.. Repeated here:
While this has been suspended, Yves St Laurent has died at 71. If this market had been open, I believe this would have settled the market. Perhaps we should settle this and encourage Ryan to post another with stricter settlement requirements (i.e. any death reported on People.com)

Yves: http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/06/01/laurent.obit.ap/index.html
http://www.people.com/people/news/0,,,00.html

I think " How old will the next persons death reported in People mag. be" or something like that.

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/06/01/1529737-legendary-designer-yves-saint-laurent-dies-at-71

An Admin who has no idea what to do, three superusers, an author, and several bystanders are all tied in knots over a starry eyed definition of "celebrity". The author was probably hoping for someone like Elizabeth Taylor or Clint Eastwood. Shame! Instead, the real world is filled with real people and real celebrities...That don't seem to count.

I agree with anaverageamerican that YSL might not be satisfactory to Kathmandu, but -- wait for it -- the Royal Family of Nepal could be making a speedy departure this week with a change of government. But Alas! THAT won't be red carpet treatment in Las Vegas...

Without a specific question for a specific type of celebrity to be settled from a specific source, there is no way to settle this question. Mork had several good ideas under comment 17 with perhaps people mag or people.com as the settlement source, as a few people suggested. As a UNIVERSAL QUESTION -- which is what stands at the moment -- there is no universal settlement source. Get it down to one small area that can be answered and settled.

Should settle at 71-80