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Where will U.S. health officials determine the source of the salmonella-tainted tomatoes to be?
Settled as undetermined source
Feds have been unable to find a single trace of salmonella on a tomato, and are looking at jalapenos instead:
http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/072608dnmetsalmonella.42da343.html
Background:
An outbreak of salmonella first linked to uncooked tomatoes has persuaded McDonald's, among others, to stop serving/selling certain types raw tomatoes. The outbreak has possibly affected people in nine states, but is concentrated in Texas and New Mexico. The source of the tomatoes is still undetermined.
The question is: where will U.S. officials determine the tomatoes came from? The initial odds for this market were set based on where the USDA reports most tomatoes are produced (during the the time of the outbreak) and shipped (to the areas most affected). Most who were interviewed said they ate raw tomatoes before becoming ill April 23 and May 27.
* The market will settle as "undetermined source" if the source is not announced before the suspend date (Sep. 1) or if the source is determined not be tomatoes afterall.
* Western United States refers to any state west of the Mississippi River (including the unlikely event of Hawaii or Alaska). California is the major player here.
* Eastern United States, it follows, inlcudes all states east of the Mississippi. Georgia and Florida are the major players here. Most of their tomatoes are shipped to Eastern states.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080609/ap_on_bi_ge/mcdonald_s_tomatoes_2
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-06-04-tomatoes-salmonella_N.htm?csp=34
The question is: where will U.S. officials determine the tomatoes came from? The initial odds for this market were set based on where the USDA reports most tomatoes are produced (during the the time of the outbreak) and shipped (to the areas most affected). Most who were interviewed said they ate raw tomatoes before becoming ill April 23 and May 27.
* The market will settle as "undetermined source" if the source is not announced before the suspend date (Sep. 1) or if the source is determined not be tomatoes afterall.
* Western United States refers to any state west of the Mississippi River (including the unlikely event of Hawaii or Alaska). California is the major player here.
* Eastern United States, it follows, inlcudes all states east of the Mississippi. Georgia and Florida are the major players here. Most of their tomatoes are shipped to Eastern states.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080609/ap_on_bi_ge/mcdonald_s_tomatoes_2
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-06-04-tomatoes-salmonella_N.htm?csp=34
Settlement details:
As reported by the FDA or any major mainstream news source.
http://www.fda.gov/
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Activity: H$93,078
Settled as undetermined source on Sat 26th Jul 6:36am PDT
Suspend date: Mon 1st Sep 1:05am PDT Settlement date: Sat 26th Jul 6:36am PDT
Initial likelihoods: Western United States: 25%, Eastern United States: 15%, Mexico: 20%, Canada: 10%, other country not named above: 5%, more than one of the above sources: 5%, undetermined source: 20%
Action history:
Created Mon 9th Jun 11:56am PDT by smidge76
smidge76
Suspended Thu 17th Jul 9:10pm PDT by 
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: Flagged by super user:
Suspended pending review of settlement information.
<http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2008/NEW01862.html>
newswrangler: Flagged by super user:
Suspended pending review of settlement information.
<http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2008/NEW01862.html>
Settlement requested Thu 17th Jul 9:14pm PDT by 
randburg: http://news.aol.com/health/article/fda-says-its-ok-to-eat-tomatoes-again/88427?icid=200100397x1205762551x1200278409
It's OK to eat Tomatoes again! So it is "undetermined source".
randburg: http://news.aol.com/health/article/fda-says-its-ok-to-eat-tomatoes-again/88427?icid=200100397x1205762551x1200278409
It's OK to eat Tomatoes again! So it is "undetermined source".
Suspended Thu 17th Jul 10:30pm PDT by newswrangler: Suspended pending settlement
newswrangler: Suspended pending settlement
Settlement requested Thu 17th Jul 10:30pm PDT by newswrangler:
New news has come in from the FDA in last 30 minutes...
As per market:
" The market will settle as "undetermined source" ... if the source is determined not be tomatoes after all."
So, winning prediction likely ought to be: "undetermined source"
<http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/tomatoes.html>
(earlier source: <http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2008/NEW01862.html>)
I don't have an accurate prediction cut-off on this.
(market suspended)
newswrangler:
New news has come in from the FDA in last 30 minutes...
As per market:
" The market will settle as "undetermined source" ... if the source is determined not be tomatoes after all."
So, winning prediction likely ought to be: "undetermined source"
<http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/tomatoes.html>
(earlier source: <http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2008/NEW01862.html>)
I don't have an accurate prediction cut-off on this.
(market suspended)
Unsuspended Fri 18th Jul 6:03am PDT by 
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tisha
Settlement requested Sat 26th Jul 3:12am PDT by 
Erik: Feds finally track down source of salmonella - jalapeño peppers from Mexico
12:18 AM CDT on Saturday, July 26, 2008
Associated Press
WASHINGTON – In the long search for the origins of the salmonella outbreak, the Food and Drug Administration has finally settled on a single product (jalapeño peppers) and a country (Mexico).
http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/072608dnmetsalmonella.42da343.html
Erik: Feds finally track down source of salmonella - jalapeño peppers from Mexico
12:18 AM CDT on Saturday, July 26, 2008
Associated Press
WASHINGTON – In the long search for the origins of the salmonella outbreak, the Food and Drug Administration has finally settled on a single product (jalapeño peppers) and a country (Mexico).
http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/072608dnmetsalmonella.42da343.html
Settlement requested Sat 26th Jul 4:40am PDT by Erik: Feds finally track down source of salmonella - jalapeño peppers from Mexico
12:18 AM CDT on Saturday, July 26, 2008
Associated Press
WASHINGTON – In the long search for the origins of the salmonella outbreak, the Food and Drug Administration has finally settled on a single product (jalapeño peppers) and a country (Mexico).
http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/072608dnmetsalmonella.42da343.html
to summarize:
The Denton Record-Chronicle and Associated press are a "major mainstream news source."
The market creator, in comment #20 states, "...I clearly stated that the market would settle as "undetermined source" if the source is determined not to be tomatoes afterall."
Sooooo........can we settle this now?
Erik: Feds finally track down source of salmonella - jalapeño peppers from Mexico
12:18 AM CDT on Saturday, July 26, 2008
Associated Press
WASHINGTON – In the long search for the origins of the salmonella outbreak, the Food and Drug Administration has finally settled on a single product (jalapeño peppers) and a country (Mexico).
http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/072608dnmetsalmonella.42da343.html
to summarize:
The Denton Record-Chronicle and Associated press are a "major mainstream news source."
The market creator, in comment #20 states, "...I clearly stated that the market would settle as "undetermined source" if the source is determined not to be tomatoes afterall."
Sooooo........can we settle this now?
Settled as 'undetermined source' Sat 26th Jul 6:36am PDT by tisha: Feds have been unable to find a single trace of salmonella on a tomato, and are looking at jalapenos instead:
http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/072608dnmetsalmonella.42da343.html
tisha: Feds have been unable to find a single trace of salmonella on a tomato, and are looking at jalapenos instead:
http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/072608dnmetsalmonella.42da343.html
Suspend date: Mon 1st Sep 1:05am PDT Settlement date: Sat 26th Jul 6:36am PDT
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http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/tomatoes.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/06/15/mcdonalds.tomatoes.ap/index.html?eref=rss_mostpopular
Also, the safe list is still being updated here:
http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/tomatoes.html
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080627/ap_on_he_me/med_salmonella_tomatoes
<http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2008/NEW01862.html>
There are other news stories today that state the tomato investigation will continue.
It's OK to eat Tomatoes again! So it is "undetermined source".
It's OK to eat tomatoes again, but it is stressed in a few articles that that is not because tomatoes have been cleared as the source but rather that any tomatoes grown in April and May would no longer be circulating.
to a salmonella outbreak.
http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080718/NEWS01/80718013/-1/ESN
http://www.wrdw.com/onyourside/headlines/25628514.html
"salmonella-tainted tomatoes" only. If jalapenos are determined to be the cause, then
then "salmonella-tainted tomatoes" still have an undetermined source.
Latest update: The strain of salmonella linked to this outbreak has been found on a jalepeno pepper grown in Mexico, and processed in Texas (where most of the initial illnesses were reported).
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/07/21/fda.salmonella/index.html?eref=rss_mostpopular
The FDA is still not stating conclusively that this is the source of the outbreak, however.
12:18 AM CDT on Saturday, July 26, 2008
Associated Press
WASHINGTON – In the long search for the origins of the salmonella outbreak, the Food and Drug Administration has finally settled on a single product (jalapeño peppers) and a country (Mexico).
http://www.dentonrc.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/072608dnmetsalmonella.42da343.html
The Denton Record-Chronicle and Associated press are a "major mainstream news source."
The market creator, in comment #20 states, "...I clearly stated that the market would settle as "undetermined source" if the source is determined not to be tomatoes afterall."
Sooooo........can we settle this now?
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