http://helpmejoseph.typepad.com/charlotte_front_and_cente/images/2008/06/05/nobama.jpg

She's got my vote!

Good catch on the photo. Sarah Palin does look good on that Harley.
I must admit, she improves photo opps for McCain campaign significantly. lol

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Thanks, I appreciate that.

Bless you f_o_f, I was startin' to feel a bit beat up today on my markets, or maybe it was my morbid fascination of having the conf. on the TV all day, a bit of good news though, I got a lead on a job today, I was let go from my job in June for being too successful, I'll have to tell you about it over a beer someday.....

He never stopped smiling and laughing – even while struggling to button his shirt, even while using two canes to get himself across the room to give my Mom a kiss. He just woke up a little earlier, and worked a little harder.

friend invite accepted...though im not really active anymore.

$666,033 net worth?!

hey f_o_f if you loose $33HD today, or gain $633, I may have to defriend you...

ha ha

just read your comment on the 16% no you don't you suffer under pontius pilot lol like the rest of us,sorry i was not able to complete your challenge i tried over three days but it was still voided

Hey f_o_f!

Love the 'about me', I once had a hat embroidered with VRWC that I wore proudly for a long time. Hey, I got a message from Matthew, Luke & John, they said that their fourth was fresh out of valium.



lol

http://www.hubdub.com/m13376/_freedom_will_hubdub_allow_the_other_16_the_same_as_the_rest_of_the_group_of_expression

Hi,

Got a small feature update for you to know about: You can make your real name public by going to
My Hubdub-My Account- Privacy users can elect to make their name public or visible to just friends. The default was private, but feel free to change that.

Regards,
Ryan
Hubdub Staff

@destry - thanks

@destry - thanks

and btw LETS HEAR IT FOR THE RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY! WOO HOO!

What the heck why did it do it twice

RE: I was kidding. Feel free to make any jokes you want about my questions!

RE: @Fingers of fury Stop making fun of my questions!

I enjoy making 'wisecracks' & 'wordplays'... but it appeared like I was making fun of you and your questions... I'm sorry dragon.

RE: I was kidding. Feel free to make any jokes you want about my questions!

RE: @Fingers of fury Stop making fun of my questions!

I enjoy making 'wisecracks' & 'wordplays'... but it appeared like I was making fun of you and your questions... I'm sorry dragon.

Nice avatar!

Hey thanks for adding me! Always looking for new friends on hubdub!

Why indeed it is! Thanks so much! Funny, I should have thought to whip out this credential when I was at the bank earlier trying to get them to accelerate the normal hold time on a large check I received. ha ha

btw, I meant everything I said about the Olympics/you very well captured/anticipated what I think will be a plethora of problems. When I think about the moral dilemnas that situations like you described occur here in the West where we have a tradition of individuality and considered resistance to authority coming head to head with the security apparatus there, and their need to keep things civil, it makes me cringe. My old boss and wife are headed over to the Games and when I learned this I actually started to worry about them. Sad.

psst, hey kindred spirit....

this is odd, I created a market earlier this evening @: http://www.hubdub.com/m12650/Will_it_be_reported_that_any_tourists_are_punished_for_any_these_7_sins_in_China_during_Olympics

It's now suspended, w/o any mention of why, nor did I get an email, not that I haven't had questions suspended or voided before, I've had a bunch, but never w/o some kind of explanation. I've requested a polite explanation, but it just seemed odd. Do you think I was over the top on this question? If you read the background article I think my exasperation is warranted. Thoughts?

f_of_f

Thnx for your email, glad to see this water/fire market is back. I honestly think that one of the things that makes HD better than some of the other new predictive sites I've found is this convenient forum for gentle influence and the capacity to construct markets that make a subtle point. Every passing day I am more convinced that Senator Obama's legions are swooinginegions are swooning but for some unknown reason their adoration seems to be absent the normal and proper scrutiny that EVERY person that wants to lead the country should have to experience. I'm going to work on this... Here is a small list of things that I'm going to use in my consideration:

Water Made Wine: John 2:1-11.

The Nobleman's Son: John 4, 48-54.

The Draught of Fishes: Luke 5, 1-11.

The Cure of the Demoniac: Mark 1, 23-28; Luke 4, 33-37.

Peter's Mother-in-law: Matt. 8, 14-15; Mark 1, 29-31; Luke 4, 38-39.

The Leper: Matt. 8, 1-4; Mark 1, 40-45; Luke 5, 12-19.

The Paralytic Cured: Matt. 9, 1-8; Mark 2, 1-12; Luke 5, 18-26.

The Cure at Bethsaida: John 5, 1-15.

The Withered Hand: Matt. 12, 9-13; Mark 3, 1-6; Luke 6, 6-11.

The Centurion's Servant: Matt. 8, 5-13; Luke 7, 2-10.

The Widow's Son: Luke 7, 11-17.

The Blind and Mute Demoniac: Matt. 12, 22.

The Tempest Stilled: Matt. 8, 23-27; Mark 4, 35-41; Luke 8, 22-25.

Expulsion of Devils: Matt. 8, 29-34; Mark 5, 1-20; Luke 8, 26-39.

Jairus' Daughter: Matt. 9, 18-26; Mark 5, 21-43; Luke 8, 40-56.

The Woman In the Crowd: Matt. 9, 20-22; Mark 5, 24-34; Luke 8, 43-48.

Two Blind Men: Matt. 9, 27-31.

The Mute Spirit: Matt. 9, 32-34.

Five Thousand Fed: Matt. 14, 13-21; Mark 6, 34-44; Luke 9, 12-17; John 6, 1-15.

Jesus Walks on the Water: Matt. 14, 22-33; Mark 6, 45-52; John 6, 16-21.

The Chanaanite Woman: Matt. 15, 21-28; Mark 7, 24-30.

The Deaf Mute: Mark 7, 31-37.

Four Thousand Fed: Matt. 15, 32-38; Mark 8, 1-9.

The Blind Man: Mark 8, 22-25.

A Possessed Boy: Matt. 17, 14-21; Mark 9, 13-30; Luke 9, 37-43.

Tribute Money Provided: Matt. 17, 24-28.

The Man Born Blind: John 9, 1-38.

The Mute, Lame, and Blind: Matt. 15, 29-31.

A Woman Cured: Luke 13, 10-17.

The Man with the Dropsy: Luke 14, 1-6.

The Raising of Lasarus: John 11, 1-44.

Ten Lepers: Luke 17, 11-19.

The Blind Men at Jericho: Matt. 20, 29-34; Mark 10, 46-52; Luke 18, 35-43.

The Fig Tree Blasted: Matt. 21, 18-22; Mark 11, 12-25.

The Servant's Ear Healed: Luke 22, 49-51.

The Draught of Fishes: John 21, 1-14.

Aw nuts. It's too good of an issue to not somehow be used...

Perhaps something like, "Will there be a news report of the transfer of X amount of yellowcake crossing an ocean or international border before Y time?" In this case the X would be an amount larger than Cameco's and the Y would be the anniversay of the original story.

Or...Will the world record for the largest split yellow cake be broken during 2008? and try to find the world record for the largest cake (baked good) and make a comparison to this "yellow cake" that was split up.

Or...Will any reports of a sailor becoming ill from radiation poisoning on the ship that transported the yellow cake be reported?

Or...Will Iraq offer a plausible explanation of what they'd intended to do with all of their yellow cake? World's largest tea party?
Thanks for the suggestion... I'm still thinking but not coming up with much. I like your idea, but the rule "questions concerning individual stock prices are not currently permitted on HD" would probably include "Stock beat 5 yr high in 2008?"

If you think of anything else I would be grateful for your help!

Here's why it was voided:
2.3.4 Business Category
* Questions can be made about the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the NASDAQ Composite Index. Questions on any other indices are not currently permitted. Questions should not be made about the performance of individual stocks.

Hey f_o_f

Still hoping to see this market again, any progress?
CAMECO(CCJ) Buys 3500 Barrels Iraq Yellowcake - Stock Closes Over/Under $37 8/01/08?.

What about something like...
CAMECO(CCJ) Buys 3500 Barrels Iraq Yellowcake - Stock beat 5 yr high in 2008?

see http://www.cameco.com/investor_relations/stock_price/, looks like the best mark in the last 5 years was just over 55. Do you think this might be allowed?

I DID notice your comment on my Dark Knight/Obama Q, and I apprciate the commentary! I'll be toasting myself with a cold brew here shortly when I see this market cross the !00K mark. I'm showcasing this in a letter to Nigel today that I'm working on in my quest to get on with HD in a more formal capacity.

My comment #21 on this question: http://www.hubdub.com/m9087/When_will_Barack_Obama_release_his_birth_certificate

Was quoted here: http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/28/daily-kos-an-obama-activist-and-forged-birth-certifications/

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21 fingers_of_fury

Here’s where the forgery potentially originated… note the time on the blank copy
Photobucket
posted 2 weeks ago

That’s apparently why “fingers of fury” suggests that opendna’s posting is where the alleged forgeries may have originated…….presumably because they would be easier to alter.

The writer of the article, JimJ, researched opendna, the owner of the photobucket account with the blank certification of live birth. Openda is Jay McKinnon. "The real world identity of opendna is further confirmed on a progressive California website, which links an article by Jay McKinnon to LongBeachPolitics.org, the Obama Campaign, and the Democratic Party websites. Several images in opendna’s photobucket album also confirm the poster’s identity as Jay McKinnon. The photograph is of the same individual on all sites."

The issue of Obama’s Birth Certificate and it’s relevance to the forged documents found in opendna/Jay McKinnon’s photobucket album comes into clearer focus when we consider the fact that he also hosts a Daily Kos Diary

The significance becomes even clearer when we consider his comments on the Daily Kos June 12, 2008 thread in which Obama’s alleged Certification first appeared. Responding to a request for a “font expert” opendna/Jay McKinnon offered his assistance: ”How about a DHS-trained document expert?”

And, perhaps most significantly, the existence of the fake documents located on opendna’s site was noted shortly after Obama’s alleged birth certificate first appeared on Daily Kos on June 12, 2008. See Comment 21 here:

21 fingers_of_fury

Here’s where the forgery potentially originated… note the time on the blank copy
Photobucket
posted 2 weeks ago

(Note that today is June 27,2008 and this was posted over two weeks ago which would place the date around June 12-13, 2008…)

“fingers of fury” suggests that opendna’s posting is where the alleged forgeries may have originated…….presumably because they would be easier to alter.

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When I located opendna's blank certification of live birth... I had no idea that we was connected to Obama and the Daily Kos!!! My initial thoughts were that since the date of the blank matched Obama's, someone either copied Obama's and removed all info except the date, or used the blank copy to create Obama's.

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if it were to be demonstrated that someone closely connected to The Daily Kos and/or the Barack Obama Presidential Campaign knowingly created and/or posted a fake Certificate of Live Birth, the ramifications would be enormous…. even more so if he turned out to be a foreign citizen. And Jay Mckinnon pretty clearly has some serious explaining to do.
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/28/daily-kos-an-obama-activist-and-forged-birth-certifications/

Hey thanks for noticing :-D ... Actually, the shirt is written normal, but I took this pic from my MacBook camera, so it naturally reversed it I guess... Haha, dunno how :-P ... I dig the shirt myself too, it was given to me by an older man at Mars Hill Church here in Seattle who bought it for his grandson who dissed it and didn't want it, so he gave it to me cause I'm like 100lbs and 5'2" LOL, so yeah, it fits me great, LOL :-D

DUDE, look at your wealth-o-meter!! You're uber wealthy man, congrats! :-D

It blows cold at stop lights? I fear for another ice age!!!

Hey no worries f_o_f, your name displayed in my email when I rcvd your invite to make a wager, that's all.

if you have an email address I can shoot you a screen print, it's pretty funny.

Check this out:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2244706012

f_o_f

is that you running for Sect. of State/MS on Facebook?

8^)

And the Titanic "Not even God Himself could sink" Hmmm, did they ever consider the ice God Himself made in the first place? LOL ... Obviously not :-P ... Great pic, made me remember the irony :-D

tell me how you feel about this:
http://getsatisfaction.com/hubdub/topics/highest_net_worth_reached

http://www.thefunnyweb.net/297/36.jpg

re: http://www.hubdub.com/m7922/
Now that you forced me to take a close look at that question...I think that is very interesting market.
The degree to which media tries to contort the facts lately is very unpredictable. (fortunately amusing though)
I'm going to be interested to watch the numbers on that one.

this is BIG... really BIG:

Sheyla Hershey - Will She Die of Asphyxiation Before Halloween?

Background:

Sheyla Hershey nearly suffocated last night.

"I tossed and turned all night... I couldn't sleep," Sheyla recounted, "...and then my breast rolled right up against my nose!"
"I was so scared," she continued, while reaching for a tissue, "I couldn't breath! I thought I was dying!"
Sheyla paused for a moment, collecting her thoughts, dabbing her cheeks with tear soaked tissues.
"And then it just rolled off my face... like a MIRACLE... like an angel reached down and pulled it off me. It rolled right off the edge of the bed and dragged me with it to the floor."

Will She Die of Asphyxiation Before Halloween?
Yes 80%
No 20%

As reported by a major mainstream news source or a peer-reviewed medical journal.

News Keywords:
Titanic

Shout #15 refers to this question: DJIA Texas Holdem Poker: Will the Aces WIN, LOSE or DRAW?
http://www.hubdub.com/m7622/DJIA_Texas_Holdem_Poker_Will_the_Aces_WIN_LOSE_or_DRAW

The following is based upon a true story...
All the names, places and events were completely changed to protect the innocent.

Viewer Discretion is Advised!

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Pope Benedict XVI decides to take his popemobile out for a spin in Las Vegas. While waiting at a traffic light, an escort walks by, and feeling sorry for her the Pope offers her a ride.

After a few blocks of awkward silence, the Pope offers some encouraging words of comfort.

"I will pray, for you," he says, "I know your job is difficult and you feel you have no other options. God will guide you out of this mess."

A look of puzzlement sweeps across her young and prematurely aged face.

"You've heard my music?" she asks.

"Well, no, I didn't know you could sing," Pope responds.

"Of course I CAN sing, duh, I'm Britney Spears!"

"Oh, Britney! I must apologize... I didn't recognize you!"

"Well then why did you pick me up... don't you know about stranger danger?" she asked.

Pope smiled.

"Where can I drop you off, Britney?"

"I'm going to the Motel 6. It's a few miles down this road," she said while waving and dangling her arm and pointy finger in the straight ahead direction.

"Is that where you are staying?"

"No, that's where John, Hillary and Obama are staying," and after a moments pause, Britney's voice took on an anxious note, "They want me to HURRY up and pick one but I don't know who to endorse!"

She settled back in her seat, her voice calmer, she said, "We're just going to play cards... and like hang out... and maybe I'll choose one."

"I enjoy a game of cards now and then," Pope said, too polite to ask but hoping for an invite.

"Yeah!" Britney said excitedly, turning her full attention to the robed wise one beside her, "you should play... oh please oh please oh please play with us... it will be fun!"

"OK, Britney... I accept!"

John, Hillary and Obama met them in the parking lot.

"Can he endorse us?!?!", Hillary asked. She and Obama turned their heads in John's direction, "He's not a US Citizen!"

John fumbled through his pockets, patted at his back pockets and the chest and torso section of his suit. Satisfied what he was seeking could not be found, he spread his arms out, palms up, and shrugged.

"I forgot to bring my McCain-Feingold legislation," John said apologetically, "Not that it helps any... I can't make any sense out of it... those stupid rules keep tripping me up."

"You could give him amnesty, John," Obama's baritone rich voice suggested.

"Yeah, yeah..." John said excitedly, "...a pathway to citizenship!"

"Come, come..." John invited, turning to lead the group to his room, and without looking back he added as he walked, "Let's play some cards!"

Later, after the first hands were dealt, and everyone had opportunity to look at their cards, Obama turned to the Pope and said, "My wife and I would be honored, to accept your endorsement, for my bid to the White House, we..."

Hillary interrupted, "You already have a Reverend endorsement, it's MY turn, this was MY TURN!!!" She grabbed the Pope's arm, hugging his bicep, like a mother cradles and protects her child.

"That's ENOUGH, Hillary!" Obama retorted and stood to reach across the table, his hands clawing at her hands, attempting to pry them away from the Pope.

As if awaking from a deep slumber, John's eyebrows floated higher and he too jumped up and reached across the table, grabbing and holding for dear life the Pope's other arm.

Britney plugged her nose as she backed up in her chair, fleeing John's armpit.

"STOP!" Pope authoritatively shouted, standing so quickly, forcefully, that his chair accelerated and fell several feet behind him. With lightning speed never expected from a man his age, the Pope pulled his arms free, curled his fingers under his collar and with the scratching sound of Velcro separating, his robe fell to his feet around him. Pope quickly crossed his arms downward over his abdomen and grabbed two golden .457 revolvers, holstered with the butts facing forward, and drew them to arm level, gazing down the ends of the barrels as all eyes except Britney's stared in amazement at the Pope.

Britney, reaching down for the Pope's robe, asked in a voice that almost whispered in awe, "Who... is your... fashion designer?!?!"

"Shaddup, Britney!" Pope ordered, without turning his head away from the politicians standing before him.

"I came hear to play some cards... and I won't let this hand be ruined by a political fight... SIT DOWN!"

After everyone sat, Pope pushed all his chips to the center of the table.

"I'm all in," he said carefully, and leaned back in his chair to watch the others.

"Well, it's too late to fold now, I'm in it for the long haul," Hillary said pushing her chips in to join the pot.

"Call!" Obama said confidently.

"Call," John said with a nervous giggle

"Me, too," Britney said with a clap, "I LOVE going all in, this is sooo exciting!"

"What have you got, Hillary?" said Pope, "Show us your cards."

Hillary turned over the Queen and Jack of Diamonds. "Diamonds are a girls best friend," she smiled.

Obama turned over the King of Clubs and King of Spades, and addressed Hillary, "I've got you BEAT!"

"Don't count me out just yet," she replied waiving her pointy finger in front of Obama's face.

"I've got a pair of tens!" John said turning over the 10 of Spades and 10 of Hearts. "10 times 10 is 100!" he said with a laugh.

Hillary and Obama didn't laugh, so John continued, "Get it... 100 years... get it... 10 times 10 is 100," still laughing John waived them off with his hand as if to brush them aside for not understanding his joke.

"We get it," Hillary moaned.

Britney turned over a 5-7 of Clubs. "Just like the 57 states!" she exclaimed. Hillary cackled and poked Obama in the ribs with her elbow.

"I was tired..." Obama began in defense, but became quiet at the sight of Pope's cards as he turned them over.

"I have the Angels of God!" Pope said, "The Ace of Spades and Ace of Hearts!"

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QUESTION: Will the Aces win, lose, or tie against the 4 other hands?

Odds each hand wins calculated using the Poker Calculator at cardplayer.com:

AS-AH: 38.78%
QD-JD: 15.22%
KC-KS: 15.05%
10S-10H: 12.68%
5C-7C: 18.12%
TIE: 0.15%

Starting Deck with the 6 Hole Cards Removed:

1-10: A234-6-8910JQ- of Clubs
11-21: A2345678910--K of Diamonds
22-31: -23456789 -JQ- of Spades
32-42: -23456789 -JQK of Hearts

Cards calculated then removed from deck in this order:

Monday May 19:
FLOP Card #1: 42(cards)*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Tuesday May 20:
FLOP Card #2: 41(cards)*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Wednesday May 21:
FLOP Card #3: 40(cards)*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Thursday May 22:
TURN Card #4: 39(cards)*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%
Friday May 23:
RIVER Card#5: 38(cards)*(last 4 of DJIA Close)%

DJIA: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=^DJI

See previous question for further explanation of how cards are calculated:
http://www.hubdub.com/m7240/DJIA_Texas_Holdem_Poker_BIG_SLICK_vs_JACK10_SUITED

heh heh heh

hey fingers...did you see what youbet just posted??!! a 93% certainty that the sun would shine over London @ 4:00am GMT? What am I missing here, is this some of that famous gaming that y'all talk about? yeah, I guess if the sun DID rise and shine over London earlier than the time it's supposed to break the horizon, that WOULD be newsworthy...http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=769

Really Impressive Avatar -- I like it!

Awesome pic Fingers! ... Looks like a Mooninite!!! ... Hahaha, hey ever had any Moonijuana? I here the Mooninites grow their own Moonijuana :-P

Oops! Okay......owned.

Yes, diversify. I'm starting to think Hillary won't drop out. Even when it seems like it makes sense for her to do so, she keeps buying back in.

= )

Who, me? You still own me.

= )

Glad to hear you are a right thinker Fingers! ... So many people are beyond corrupt, it's just sad :-(

Btw, I am slightly leading you in the Weekly Leaderboards :-P ... Oh yeah, oh yeah!! Haha :-P

Hey Fingers,

Glad to see you man :-D ... Man you are stinkin' dripping with wealth, hahaha, you man are worth like nearly 11 times as much as I am, so I hope you are not expecting me to be able to rival your account size anytime soon, hehe :-P

DUDE, 1,660 predictions!!! How do you keep up with all that man? I would be drowning, but maybe that's why I am not worth $324k and you are, hahahahaha, I guess I will settle for a distant 2nd, or 3rd, or 222nd, hehehe :-D

Great to be included on your friends list man, I thank you so much for that :-D ... I hope for you the best going forwards man :-)

lucidstates

http://getsatisfaction.com/hubdub/topics/give_us_some_hubdub_love

THANKS! for the question and challenge.
Please! don't make this a weekly special category item. ;0

yeah i agree
it would be terrible if we ended up with just vista

Thank you for the kind offer of friendship.

I appreciate it, but regret that little will come of it. Yesterday I ran out patience for the arbitrary ways that admins settle so many questions and how they settle many of them too soon. Today will be my last day on the site. I cashed out most of my predicitions yesterday and am here today only to clear out the rest. I hope that you continue to enjoy Hubdbub and that the challenges of competing against your friends are rewarding.

Best wishes,
Peter

Come On Fingers! <$H10k from me on the overall!
wooo hooo

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