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@pulloverthatasstoophat,homeboy_chillin
Pleeeeaase!
Please try to add to the body of knowledge gained by everybody at this site, and please refrain from using language which diminishes our collective opinion of you.

I'd bet on this myself, but duh!, I'm on strike!
at 37%
on or before April 30 looks like a 'sure bet', given this weekend's Satyaki-gate strike.
50-50 Starting Odds on this one? Come on, will somebody who knows something about cricket research this and advise Hubdubbers of realistic starting odds?

Who's making money on this question?
Unfortunately, there isn't (yet) a news source covering the "Underwater Basketweaving League (UBL)".

I'd bet on the Continental Hoopsters! I really like their odds.
is everybody happy now?
I can not believe that there are still some active ICL questions.
I agree to strike.
I will NOT wager until user satyaki is removed from the site entirely.

I'm jersjusttrolling, and I approved this messasge.

the author of this question is a known cheater.
please be aware that he has continued to game the system.
sry rohan,
i'm very sorry to hear that you of all people would be defending satyaki's actions. After all, you were the hubdubber who caught him in the act this last time. why the sudden change of heart?

seems to me that once again the hubdub community will have to sort this out on their own, considering that we've yet to hear back from donal (sports editor), or any other member of the Hubdub staff.

am I obsessed? Yes. actually, a more correct description is 'let down'. let down by satyaki, and let down by the admins on this issue. now, i'm let down by your support for this criminal. ok, i'll admit ;) that we're only talking $H here, but if he were cheating his way to game your pension fund, you'd be a bit more concerned.

rohan ...
"How can you possibly defend his actions?"

the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.

the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
satyaki has been busted numerous times. He continued, even after promising Hubdubbers he wouldn't cheat again.
Yet hear he is, trying to sucker you into thinking he has mended his ways.

satyaki is abusing the system. has for quite a while now.
don't let him do it to you.

satyaki wants me to 'go away'.

he admits he wouldn't 'mind', if I posted my commentary on those questions where he was caught 'red-handed'.
he just doesn't want me to continue to track him down, and warn others of his criminal intent.

satyaki doesn't know that I'll continue to track him to the end of Hubdubworld if necessary, and that, the only place he might find sanctuary is to simply leave.

the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions
sorry cakie174, i took your concern out of context.
in fact, i think your suggestion has merit, and would vote for this feature if considered by Hubdub.
it provides a certain level of oversight, however doesn't cover those positions that are cashed out prior to settlement. maybe a complete listing where cashed-out wagers could be viewed as well.

author of this question is a proven cheat.
be careful what you bet on.
is cakie174 the same as satyaki? sure does sound like it.
if so, the answer is no freakin' way!
that's amazing destry. good find. i wouldn't have thought that we would've agreed on anything.
whoa!
i agree with destry
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
the author of this question has been found to be a major cheater on Hubdub.
do yourself a favor and avoid his questions.
posted 21 weeks ago on ICL : India vs. World (9th April)
@meanderingsearcher

a citizen, in and of themselves, do not own the US.
all citizens, collectively, own this country. If issues become serious enough for the masses to feel the pain, we have the voting booth. Our leaders know it, and know they can be thrown out, if they don't adhere to the majority rule.
satyaki is "Branded".
I heard that the Hubdub Commandos have just boarded the HubStealthCopter. One of them (I think it was Donal), was carrying the little black box. Oh no!

Rohan, I am in awe.

satyaki has been found out before. he has been warned more than once.

IF this 'gaming' ordeal is found to be truth, then satyaki needs to 'go to the moon', alice.
a) delete his account.
b) void each and every question that he has created.
c) take his account profile picture and create a Hubdub wall of shame.
d) remove all of his shouts from my profile.
e) report to all hubdubbers what has been done on the wall of shame.

imho, he has abused the system, and abused my friendship.
bye bye satyaki, you are defriended.


US may have problems. There our problems. We still OWN the best country in the world! And WE we settle our problems, like we always have ...

With our heads held high and our friends applauding!
good job lucidstates! I've taken a position on most of your questions, and all of your challenges.
keep rollin' them out!
I'm betting on infernal!
@sports markets (crudsy #12) ...
and they're the quickest way to make a buck, unlike, say world events, that sometimes takes weeks or months to unfold. I only make sports wagers on long=shots, or sure-things, nothing in between. I'm not a sports fanatic, I'm a news-junkie, but those who make their $H on primarily sports (crudsy), are not necessarily predicting hard-core news.

and there is always a game or two going on all the time.
@c7...
"

preliminary

"
update ...

on yesterdays vote (prelimary vote), which does NOT SETTLE this question.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/01/business/msft.php

A thread at Techrepublic.com discussing yesterday's prelimary vote, and why this question should not be settled, yet.
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=259484&messageID=2466304
@gingerboi
see!

two persons with as opposing views as destry and i have, simply could not share ANY domestic arrangement, but we CAN continue to push each other around on this site, without fear of reprisal in any form other than words.

but!, destry does slay me quite often! :D

not an MS fan, here.
however, this standard will force MS to keep a stable standard that others can use to enhance other products.
imho, this standard (not all), is good for others, as much as it might benefit MS.
yeah, but that's over time.
rohan throws around $H10k every day on the financial markets alone.
XML = extensible markup language = a format used to describe data/information in a common fashion so that others can use/exchange that information regardless of computing platform, OS, software.

OOXML = Office Open XML = a standard for defining and using Office documents (word processing documents, spreadsheet documents, others) within the XML domain.

whoa rohan! that would be gaming!

you should know that I'll lose >$H100k if Obama does not drop out, based on previous comments.
however, should he drop out by 4/30/08, I stand to earn >$H400k.


maybe we should create a new market ...

what will be the range of rohan's losses on MM/DD/YYYY?
0-5,000
5,000 - 10,000
10,000 +

???? ;D
@gingerboi

not in the least. couldn't be further from the truth.
destry and I have had some heated words on this issue. I believe destry lives in FL. I, in TX.

destry seems to be a witty, articulate, passionate person, yes, and again yes, a person I wouldn't mind attending a dinner with, as long as politics doesn't spoil the meal. ;0

"two heartbeats, means two, not one" is not a romatic statement, or code, as you suggest.

What it means is ...

I personally know someone, (one heartbeat), who knows the source (two heartbeats).

used quite frequently on the DC scene.

Have I been clear?
very good research erik, but ...
your reporting leaves out much of the content on the site you listed.
please provide more balanced reporting, especially if you are quoting other sites.

additionally, you might find that of those items you did list, some folks may agree with them.

your discussion follows the 'mudslinging' theme forced upon us by the Democratic Nomination process, so I do not blame you for adopting it as your own.
IF.
Both Democratic Candidates will need someone well-versed in military affairs to shore up the parties platform at the convention in Denver.

Jim Webb is a natural selection for this offer. Southern Senator from Virginia, former Secretary of the Navy, decorated former US Marine, well-published author of military chronicles. Talk about charm! He is truly a natural selection to counter Senator McCain's military creditials. And he would also fit well into the role of Secretary of Defense.

I'm tipping my hat to him for $H1k.

I still think Obama will drop out 'in reality', and mainstream news will report it.

;D
interesting parsing of an important term for hubdubbers. I think the wording may need some re-thinking, if we are predicting the outcome of events, as opposed to what 'mainstream news' reports.

on the other hand,
Hubdub has been claiming the 'News Prediction Market' as their Mantle. I think the matter can be resolved with a simple clarification in the Help section.

update ...

Denmark has decided to back Microsoft's Office Open XML document format, reversing its previous disapproval and bringing the format closer to fast-track approval by the International Organization for Standardization. A vote is expected to take place in the next few days.

http://news.zdnet.com/2424-3515_22-194601.html?tag=nl.e019
I don't know ryanj.
If a pundit says the words 'fear-mongering', all that is, is an opinion.
There is NO 'fear-mongering' "button" to push. This question needs to be voided.
let's not get festinctive on this one.

re: the question is 'will there be reports'.
the answer is "yes", there have been reports.

why all the second-guessing.
pls settle now!, or escalate to getsatifaction. If admin doesn't, I will.

suggest: make initial continental US landfall on NC coast, while still classified as a Named Hurricane, with winds in excess of 74mph, making it a Type 1 Hurricane.
i think on the same side is more probable.
i say void this one, but create a similar market that would have some clearer definition.

i like the idea of a measurement such as 100m meteorite, or crater (for that matter).
BIG CONGRATS! to crudsy
now it's only every 6-8 months.
when I was in the USMC, this kind of event happened all the time. I mean, 'like every other day or so'.

what happened in the film 'Top Gun' (where the russian boggies were playing games with the aircraft carrier), is just one example.

as Putin continues to flex his muscles, i believe, and bet that this will begin to happen more often.
still ain't gettin' no respect, steph! :(
@destry
And one of us will have to jump of the roof at Hubdub HQ after losing so much. I've already lost the 'value', so my standings have already been whacked, and quite possibly my hubdubface. So, a loss here wouldn't truly upset me as much as far as $H are concerned, but I'd be takin' a huge hit on my political credibility, and of course, my 'feelins'. :(
but, on the other hand, if hillary were to pull it off, with the odds i've been gettin', I dunno. might just beat crudsy with this one market alone. now, that would be a really cool payoff.
go go hillary!
@destry
Well, one of us is going to be a hubdubillionaire!
another btw,
I was #1 on the politics leaderboard before I started voting on this market.
Now, the leaderboard tells me I'm in the bottom 20%, and my political 'value' is in the red (-$H200).

Again, that's either commitment, loyalty, or foolishness. But it is also called putting ones $H where ones Hubdub mouth is. ;D
btw, IF (big if), Hillary does become the nominee (and yes, that seems to be a long shot at this point), I stand to make a hubfortune! I've got about $H70k bet on this one market alone. Plus I'd venture to say about $H30k on associated markets.
There truly needs to be some brokered solution. What that solution is, or how it is structured, is way beyond me. Every Dem I talk to has grown bitter these last two weeks, whether they are Obama or Hillary supporters. In any case, they say, we got to pick one at get the nomination over with.
In mosts cases, they're telling me that they will either sit out the general election, or vote for McCain, if 'their candidate', isn't the one. This is why it is really essential for there to be a clear candidate very soon, while trying to work a miracle to rekindle some sort of cohesion from both camps.
jmho

and thanks destry for your re-friendship.
I think Rio because SA has never hosted an Olympics.
I like this market
@destry
thank you for your analysis. it does fit the mainstream view.
like you, i have staked a large fortune on the outcome of this question, however, as you know, i've been on the opposite side of the market from you and obama.
it does seem that time is against hillary. and of course, i'm not SURE of any future outcome.
anything goes in American Politics. What is so great about our society is that we can have outbursts, (like you and I have had), and not have fear of being physically hurt or "disappeared". And then, when the votes are casts, and the smoke settles, we are all once again, civil towards each other.

cnn ...

The letter comes one day after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid seemed to suggest Democratic leaders were in the process of working out a deal to ensure the party's nomination fight does not go all the way to the convention.

"Things are being done," Reid told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Please feel free to create more of these questions.
I simply don't have the time at this point. (real work issues).
Thanks for all the comments.
Settlement rules (not changed!)
a) if one user has the most top 5 positions, and no other user has that many top 5's, that user is the winner.
b) if more than one user has the same number of top 5 positions, then, the points (as jenniandboys discussed) determine the winner.
c) if, after points have been determined, and there is still a tie, then, and only then, will the Overall Leaderboard position determine the winner.
@satyaki
holding any top 5 in any leaderboard (except the overall), counts as one. The highest sum of 'ones' will determine the winner. In the case of a tie, then the overall leaderboard position will be the tiebreaker, but only for those who tied.
i said 'one of the true', not 'the top'. that was my msg to you. distorting.
i may read your comments from time to time, but this is the last response you'll see from me.
again destry, twisting some words, distorting others.

I did not say 'THE' top power broker. I was not 'bragging'. I have no need to feel important to hubdubbers.

I enjoy the hubdub community, plain and simple. No agendas. I will not be ahead of you because you will simply not be playing, as you say. I will remain ahead of you because I am simply a better prognositcator than you are. Continously calling other hubdubber statements stupid, makes you look uneducated.

As you say 'I enjoy the back and forth of most of the people on Hubdub', but not those who have a contrary view of the world.

Never thought I do this, but I just 'unfriended' a fellow hubdubber. It did not feel good at all.
@destry
you're at it again.

consistently tangling 'closely related' but not 'fully related' issues.
for example:
NC wanting the money has nothing at all to do with who or when a candidate will drop out.

in addition:
'what happened in February' does not equal 'what is happening now'.

Anytime that anybody has something to contribute, you bad talk them. You've done it to me, you've done it to others. You point out correctly that I've lost a few big market wagers, even though I had full confidence of the outcome.

Yet, I'm still above you on the Top 5 Political Leaderboard by 80%. And when the rescaling is complete, I'll still be above you there, and on the Overall.

And if you're going to quote me, please include the entire quote so that others won't take my comment out-of-context, like you so readily do.


I put $H1K on Hillary, and it shot her up from 29 to 55.
Is there some kind of numeric overflow happening here, or some design-flaw, ala (size of floating-integer type)?
@bcguelph
you mean that I can't roll-over my $H into a 401k for my kids education? now that sucks.
;)
@destry
the 'contact' in DC ...
does not let on to everything that's going on, of course. be real.
is not H Dean.
does not contact me regularly. i'm not in their contact mgmt db. two heartbeats, means two, not one.

when i wagered $H100 on both hillary and obama dropping out, that was 'the talk around town'. one of them 'had to drop out'.

now, the conditions on the ground have changed.

i'm not going to share any details, just the 'gist' of what i'm hearing. and yes, it could be just talk, and i could be totally wrong. or i could just be BS-ing you and everybody on hubdub.

i did not use the full name (Howard Dean) to sound important. I wanted it to be clear who I was talking about. Please calm down.

As far as being ' so outspoken and certain ', look in the mirror. After all, without degrees of certainty, what use would a news prognosticating website have?

I'm so sorry for not making my $H positions public. To those who are interested, I've made 'some' public.

"Well all the pundits are saying speech was good." - what else could they say? Obama is a great orator.
The Dems can not wait until June to circle the wagons. Howard (DNC Chr) has indicated that that DNC would prefer "it" be over by May.

"I heard talk today of bringing the super delegates together after the last primary in June and getting them to committ, so the democrats would have a good idea of who is going to be up against McCain." - see, you still don't have a 'good idea' of who is going to go up against McCain.
"Are we to believe that you have information about the withdrawal of the leading Democratic candidate that the rest of the world doesn't know."

let's just say that I'm two heartbeats away from one of the true power brokers in DC. So, I'm not "justtrolling" on this topic.

Obama is simply not electable at this time. sry Destry, bcguelph, others.

you're not going to draw me into another argument.
place your $H where your .... is.
"she said I support Hillary, but will back Obama"

come on, more dems say and believe that!
you point out a position i lost. there have been others.
the value of my long-term holdings have been undervalued for quite some time now. (i used to take many $H5K positions.)

"otherwise the cash was going to just sit there and not generate any money"

why do you think I'm taking the position I am. got some good info that i've not shared with hubdub. and i'm running with it. so, see ya on the leaderboard come April 30th, or not.

maybe i lose, maybe i don't.
That speech ... did him in.
Obama claims clear judgement, except while he's in this church. His Pastor, has been repeating the themes aluded to in Obama's speech about race for quite some time now (reportedly over 5 years). He also repeated many other inflamatory themes as has been reported in the mainstream press.
His Pastor's "discussions" of race aren't nearly as inflamatory as his other "discussions" (or as Obama puts it "the ramblins of an ol' uncle".
No, the time is now to decide who will wear the Democratic Banner going into this year's elections. While both candidates have 'issues', Obama's self-described 'strengths' have taken a huge hit.
Their is some 'unreasonable' talk coming out of some corners of an 'uprising' should Obama NOT be nominated. The 'talk' is not of a unified pro-Obama party, but of a more sinister 'racist' uprising. That is a bunch of crap. Obama is going to put on a brave face for now, but before the end of April, look for a 'brokered solution'. Maybe the DNC Chair or some high-level adminstration post. Perhaps an ambassadorship to Kenya!

you haven't been reading your tea leaves, bcguelph!
you haven't taken the pulse of the day ...

Obama has played THE "CARD".
His support will quickly vanish in the next few weeks.
please see http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Will_Obama_drop_out_of_the_race_before_30th_April__3737/view for more discussion.
calm down everybody. nothing wrong with the software. comment#21 is accurate, but not the 'dropping out' part.
nothing wrong with a 'little inside info', is there?
sums it up quite nicely for me ... thank you for these thoughts.
michigan, florida, or not, this one is not going to the convention, sry.
in many other comments, i've said that there will be a 'brokered solution'. The only question now is which way it will go. imho
hi guys and gals.
i'm watching even more closely, and getting in just before 'they' start the 'crazy' cycle.
i'm making money on both ends. hehe
apparently there are some who do not 'fully' understand American Politics.
I took my voice up the hill to bitch like a little kitten, it was said.
They looked and they looked. One of them pointed, and said, "Oh no, that's the Commander of the Anti Death Pool Brigade". And so the arrows flew. Lovely at first, dripping with blood, the commander was relieved of , and his torch remains to be carried by the never flinching randburg. I remain loyal to the commander and the cause.



@pics4d.
Any Hubdubber can join as many factions as they want to. ;)
However, it wouldn't make sense, would it, if you joined both The Free Speech Protectorate AND The Anti Death Pool Brigade. However, there are many members of both of those. :p
Those two factions, btw, get along quite well now, actually.
Collectively, the existing factions debated many Hubdub "at-large" issues, arrived at sensible solutions, had a damn good time. Afterward, meanderingsearcher and I met and drank a whole lot of ale, made up, talked about other issues, and generally agreed that the fight was worth it. hugs-all-around, you know. :)
shadowfax,others ...

Hubdub also has factions

The Anti-Death Pool Brigade
The Resigned-to-Resignation Gang
The Hubdub Mutual Admiration Society
The Free Speech Protectorate
better by the post, i'd say
oh no .... :(

pardon the void oh pardon the void
look at the history graph, and the patterns details are even more amazing.
or is that a function of my eyeglasses?

is there a way to capture the entire history to examine the patterns of this prediction market for further analysis?
hubdub ...
let's not screw up the settlement on this one, please!
me too! I mean ... i win too!!!

yeah, i love you all too!
:)
Dakotas should be broken out (North Dakota, South Dakota).
DC should be listed as other.
Carolinas should be broken out (North Carolina, South Carolina) as should the Virginias (Virginia, West Virginia).
Delaware should be in Northeast.
Nebraska should be in Midwest.

we no longer call 'em that here in USA.
remember, here we are all market-sensitized.
we now call them "hooters". :)
pics4d is a boy!
better ban him from all sinister markets.
pics4d ... your helping our community get better.
better software, better decisions, better communication.
you're a proven leader on hubdub, with or without the $Hbug.
i enjoy your discourse, laugh at your quick wit, and wholeheartedly agree with your thoughts concerning 'fixing the system'. I think hubdub is moving forward quickly to implement the tools that hubdubbers have demanded, while fixing bugs they may find (or are reported) along the way.

Please do not leave the site over a few bugs the system encountered during birth/childhood. Every beta-tester knows that beta-systems will produce bugs. That the whole point of a beta-cycle. Your a very big part of that.

I say 'keep up the good work' pics4d. Keep up the good fight. But please move the confrontation to getsatifaction.com, where it belongs.

@rohan pics4d made a bunch of $H because of a 'bug in the system'.
now he's lost a bunch of $H because of a 'bug in the system', and he's mad as hell.
so he's betting all the $H he has on bad positions, on purpose, and is, apparently, making a bunch of $H, and did I mention that he's mad as hell.
He 'kind of' resigned today by saying he is resigned to resign but can't specifically say when he will be completely resigned, because he keeps making more $H. Very confusing. I think he feels 'spitzered' without the fun.
loved the group hugs, thanks.

and the fistinctive festivities as well :)
Hubdub also has factions

The Anti-Death Pool Brigade
The Resigned-to-Resignation Gang
The Hubdub Mutual Admiration Society
The Free Speech Protectorate

ty roushstang99 for the market. will you do next weeks?
is there a cheatbook website or something for hubdub i'm missing?
not a valid question. 0 is not represented as a chance.
Also, the starting odds seem to favor many more hubdubbers leaving than is realistic.

All hubdubbers know that this site is still in beta.
Leaving and saying they are leaving are to different things.
You say your leaving, but your still pics4d. Until pics4d is no longer, you haven't left, and your still pics4d.

btw, has the gov resigned yet? ;)

I think the laws work for the US people in this case.
It's the enforcement policies that must change.

Law Enforcement (starring constable1664) and the Courts (co-starring thedocter) require the ability to stop the worst offenders (insert favorite cartel-member name here). Also included in the worst offender category are those who 'push' marijuana to children. I haven't signed up any hubdubber for this role yet, so I may have to ask Al Pacino if he's interested.

Enforcement should change to a Clintonesque "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. Sorry for those under the age of 21, doctors, officers of the courts (sorry thedoctor), and other professions.

Public display should be illegal. Home use by adults should be allowed (condoned? encouraged? ;)

In reality, this is already happening, with the exception of some highly publicized busts. Mostly in the entertainment industry where this kind of publicity can be considered good publicity.

There will always be a special enforcement unit knocking down doors, at least to show the public that the Gov cares. You've heard of quotas for speeding tickets, and quotas for that. Constable1664 has a quota for doobies. Once those quotas are removed, marijuana will be, if not technically, at least informally, legal.

wink, wink
Firstly, US has to get over even the most basic hurdle ...

Approve medicinal use! Can't even get that approved. Don't think approval for general consumption will happen without some truly monumental event happening. Like, an asteroid is coming, so what the heck?
to some in America's Bible Belt, the odds are fifty-fifty.
Yes. It is a crime. Both the client and the service provider are breaking state laws (The US has no jurisdiction over matters relating to vice.) Hence, the State of Nevada, well-known for it's Houses of Pleasure, left that decision to the States Counties. Clarke County, home of Las Vegas, outlawed prostitition in all its forms. Nye County, next county over from Clarke, outlawed all forms except those provided in licensed brothels (inside of which, there are no rules).

So, in Gerald's case, it would be a crime unless the service was consumed (pun:) in one of Nevada's licensed brothels.

In reality though, not many cases are brought to court unless the subjects are caught in the act.
I'm done discussing the 'issue' of whether Hubdub should post these types of questions. The Hubdub community has fully vetted the issue, Hubdub.com has decided how to proceed ( Proposed resolution here: <a href='http://getsatisfaction.com/hubdub/topics/contentious_questions_proposed_resolution'>http://getsatisfaction.com/hubdub/topics/contentious_questions_proposed_resolution<;/a>
) , and I have accepted the solution.


If the question closing date continues past the first day of the month of March, that is unfair. (Kind of like betting on a NASCAR race, while the race is on. NASCAR markets close prior to the race.) This type of question should close prior to the start of the month in concern.

So, if you must, create April's (body-count) question now, and then close it on March 31st midnight, please.




I think that if additional info is not provided, and if the question can be settled without add'l info, then you must take the question literally.

a probe means any probe, no human requirement.

I'm with all of you on what this question should have been, or is not.
I think dieseldog should be kept at Diego Garcia instead. What say you?
No, it will not flame out, as long as Nigel stays away from those darn elevators. <g>
Bush doesn't know Keynesian Theory. He's been of doing to little, to late. Look for 'bold' move to 'boost' the economy, even if it causes an overcorrection. When was the last time Bush and his cronies did something that actually made sense?
but majority of the fed board (but not the chair, admittedly) want the add'l .25, and if they get their way, it'll drop .75. I'm hoping they do, because i've got $H placed.
that was quick! i'm sure nobody will try anything like that again. ;)

they (reuters) are only saying that because us hubdubbers refuse to take positions on what 'they' say. we're an indepedent bunch, and we'll decide the outcomes.
spaaaannnnkinnng, i like that much better. ty.
i thinks that dieseldog needs to be slapped!
as i've been sa'in, a 'brokered-deal' is in the cards. Can anyone say 'Barack in 2016'?
when pics4d was #1, he had quite an impressive lead, and held onto it for quite some time.
i think crudsy has held it the longest though! Congrats!

all it takes is one spike, lasting about a week, and poooof! 10,000 Hubdubbers!
hey, hey, hey, don't forget me. i got to hold it all of two days! since then, drop, drop, drop.
but there are some hubdubbers out there ...
rofl jeniandboys!
But I still think you'll need to which 'sun'. ;)

I think the settlement rules should say something like ...

1) If either candidate drops out of the race prior to any debate, then market settles as Yes.
2) If both candidates remain at the DNC, and no debate has taken place, then market settles as Yes.
3) As soon as any debate starts, market settles as No.

opinions?
Yes, they will!
And your $H will still be available.
No worries mate.
Please do not settle this market, quite yet.
Still a long ways to April debate. Anything could happen.
The question did not ask if they will plan a debate. The question asks if the Ohio debate will be the last.
Until the Philly (or other) debate takes place, it is too soon to settle.
wow, this caught me by surprise. Haven't been watching my CNN as usual. real work, you know. :0
I can not imagine what subject they will debate that they haven't already. Mostly they've been mutual admiration debates. ;)
maybe the debate before Philly will be the debate where they debate who should be president, and who should be VP. At this point, i've not got a clue on how they will further distinguish themselves.
She's a highbrowed mud-slinger, and he's wearing some space-age fabric where none of the mud sticks.
Something has got to give. The Republicans gain every day that the Democrats don't have a clear nominee.
imho, the philly debate will lead to a brokered solution. What that solution will be is a toss up.

If you want to make some $H, bet yes on these two markets...

http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Will_Obama_drop_out_of_the_race_before_30th_April__3737/view

http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Will_Hillary_Clinton_drop_out_of_the_race_before_30th_April__3950/view

They will take their debate directly to the public. You will not see another debate, where they are on camera, in the same room, being asked questions from the press. (ie., no typical debate format).
imho, we will witness a 'brokered-deal' prior to the end of April. All the talk of delegates (super or not-so-super) will then be moot.

This conversation however, is very informative. ty
If he does, where would he go?
This Q is much clearer. He tenders it when he tenders it, not when it becomes effective.
An announcement that he handed a signed resignation to the proper authority, in this case the President, I think. Can anyone confirm this? If this market needs some tightening up, now's the time.
well done truthwrangler. guess your username says it all, after all.
The temp in Fargo is 33 degress F, will a chilling wind blowing from the NW. Snow on the ground, quiet.

Beautiful, if you don't mind the cold.
if you must create these types of questions, can you at least create it the month prior to the market's month in question, and suspend it on the first day of the month in question. This would give user's the ability to opt-in, but disallow market movements throughout the month.

In addition, nobody, and I mean nobody, can be sure that the starting percentages for any given breakout are accurate. So, in short, this is a casino, and the casino operator (in this case the question author) is holding the cards.
How about ...

Will Canada continue to lose the lives of their best countrymen and women in Afghanistan during the month of March? Yes/No.

Informative, not provoking, no betting on the body-count. Less $H to be made, because of the yes/no.
these types of q's should be created a month in advance, and suspend on the first day of the month in question, to limit market movements based on updates throughout the month.
Starting odds in this case might be : Yes-80% No-20%

Your thoughts ?
Lieberman is a party of one. And because of that, he weilds more power than any other.
Any 'professional' knows that a resignation has an effective date. You don't resign today, and keep working, unless there is an effective date. That effective date, is the date of resignation. Not the day you deliver your notice.

Oh, hi honey. What did you do today? Oh, I gave the company my resignation. I gave them a two week notice.
The effective date of the resignation is the resignation date. Nobody cares what day you filed it, especially the unemployment office.

jmho

And why is the settlement date set far into March? so we can track the numbers, and make more $H! What a joy!
And if I miss the market ...
Dang, I lost $H200 because more marines were killed than I thought, and I didn't close my positions on time.

If this isn't a death pool ...
come on Hubdubbers, get with it.
Many on Hubdub may not like this question.
It is a news matter.
but why are we wagering on it?
and how were the starting values determined? (a shot in the dark? a personal preference? a study group? anything bayoubear deems reasonable?)

where does it end?
besides, ... the $H to be made if ...
physics majors have consistently proven their forebears wrong. And I'm glad that they have.
I'm amazed that anyone would want to close this market so soon.
I may be 'blind' to the actual physics of the question, but in my mind, 'hope' prevails. I'll never bet against a physicist.
imho, you simply wait until the superdelegates are seated at the democratic convention.
alot can happen before then. a month is an eternity in politics.
what if, for example, hillary drops out? Then, it would be incumbent upon all the superdelegates to cast their lot with Obama. The reverse is true. While the superdelegates count in such a big way in US politics, their voice is minimized when there is a clear candidate. When a clear candidate becomes inevitable, most, if not all, superdelegates back that candidate.
a month is an eternity in politics.
He will officially resign, when he officially resigns. It should be very clear that until the Lt. Governor is sworn in, he is, not in effect, but in fact, still the Gov.
owl1 is obviously a wise one!
however, they forget that it is possible that juveniles might, just might, be interested in this site. And so, what binarypunk said (and no I wouldn't want an adult section nor would I want to see my kid betting on the subject I just brought up) adds a whole different dimension to this discussion. Therefore, a previous post, where a 'country-template' or a 'default-template' should be used, and let user's opt-in for the other 'delicious' category-segments.
that ain't just egg on his face ... that's a full-blown Eggs-Benedict! (if you know what i mean)
steph and a few other consistent heavy hitters we're left in the 'other' category to give that market some respect.
ty chris.

yes, I always believed that an international audience would better serve the greater good within hubdub.

A long time ago, it used to be the Brits who had the somewhat shallow skin. Now it's us Americans. And if the truth be known, it's probably the obvious maturation of British culture that has made the Brits so strong in this particular area, as well as in many others.

I find myself listening to British orators, and wishing we Americans had men and women like that.

What advice can you give those hubdubbers who find this type of market offending, besides 'get over it', and 'quit moralizing me'. Adequate 'elbow' space must be made. I absolute abhore the idea of any sensorship. But, just like TVs (at least those in USA) can be tweaked to block offensive materials, this site needs something similar. You might even have a 'country template', knowing from experience what ideas are 'beyond' the cultural norm. Then, uses who are 'interested', can select from among many 'socially questionable' topics, and freely enjoy them.

Americans don't shy away from hard decisions. Neither have the Brits.
Yes, I think that most Americans would rather BET on softer subjects.
I thought, and maybe I'm wrong here, but I thought Hubdub.com WAS targeting the American Population as their Primary Market (from a business perspective).
If this is the case, then it would seem that the Brits are trying to 'push some agenda' on the American psyche.

I'm an American, I've served in combat, I'm a middle-class Conservative Democrat, living in a urban area.
I've got 2 college educated children, a grandchild, a dog, and three cats.

Pretty much 'run of the mill' American.

So, if I am a snapshot of your target demographic, #1 on both World and Politics Leaderboards, and I say to you that I am inflamed, you can bet others in America are as well.

imho, chris, other hubdubbers continue to fan my flames when they refer to me in new questions as in : 'hope jersjusttrolling and the death pool brigade don't find this one.'

to all the hubdubbers that I've offended by refering to you as the worst humans in society, I beg your forgiveness.

that honor goes to GWBush.
rohan, just a play on words (his user name) "meandering"

where is he meandering? get it? meandering meaning: slowly moving around with no apparent goal. what is it that he/she is searching for?
funny wording meanderingsearcher. no, the gun represents the tool of a killer. regardless of who the killer is. but your 'comeback' still leads me to wonder why ...
Why is meanderingsearcher so fixated on guns, death, killer heroes, and the like. where the heck are you meandering (pun), and how did you connect to the WWW from what is apparently some remote village in a third world country?
Thank you Nigel and Hubdub staff for the "very apparent" extra effort.
Thank you for making Hubdub better, and for showing the Hubdubbers out there, new and old, that your company stands by their principles, and are not afraid to take bold action to satisfy their constituents.

I think all "sides" won during this last round of debate. Hubdub has attracted some very interesting people.

btw: how many hubdubbers are there?
Once again, Hubdubbers and Hubdum.com unite!
Once again, we have ...
arrived at a reasonable solution that satisfies reasonable people.
This is purely speculation, not based on news events.
There is no contextually-correct newsworthy story to attach this event.
This is an example of a potentially inflamatory dead pool market.
It could incite the flames of some radical group.
The starting odds make this ripe for radical voting. (i'll make more money if there is an attempt!)
Yes, the prince belongs to Britain, and is in the public view, and is 'bless his heart', a princely prince, worthy of respect and awe.
However, only the worst humans in society would want to bet on his early demise. This is nothing more that a death pool.
by May 6th, NC's primary will be purely symbolic.
i do not watch fox.

mork - "These people are risking their lives for the betterment of almost anonymous people and deserve acknowledgment and not disregard. "

I've been there, done that, and i'm still being disregarded. There are better ways to promote awareness of the soldiers plight. Wagering on how many will die is not the kind attention they want or deserve.

Put your shoes on, go down to the local recruitment station, and sign up. If you can't for any reason, find a service man or woman who is home on leave and thank them. That is all they want. A sincere thank you.

To a man or woman, if you tell them that while they were gone, that you supported them on the home front by betting on the lowest corpse count, it would bring great dishonor upon them. Go ahead. Tell them. You'll be waving a white flag.



oh boy, not another
the result of switching on the collider is that it starts, and then, slowly builds up to maximum effectiveness (whatever that might be). So, this question can not be settled until at least major something (more than an honorable mention on the BBC site) happens.

but i really think mork is right. do we "really" know who is behind this?
Many fine hubdubbers have accused me of being overbearing in some attempt to force my moral positions on them.
From the start, my goals were far more humble. Monitoring the Comments Sections, I discovered, in my view, a potential land mine for Hubdub, vis-a-vis the Military Corpse Counts. The questions didn't sit well with me.
They were in no way similar to the Britney Spears questions.

Then, the Patrick Swayze Market appears one morning. Then, I watched in amazement as the $H activity quickly grew. That question, in particular, has the flavor of a "Death Pool" question.

" Pat's gonna die. We don't know exactly when. I'll bet $H20 that he dies before ..." says Larry.
" I'll take that bet! " says Kenny.

My endeavour was simply drawing attention to this type of market before Hubdub.com goes live. They will, after all, have to make decisions based on the needs of the company. I respect that.

And I respect all of you who have contributed to this conversation. Thank you.