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Here is an article from Salon.com
SEPTEMBER 2, 2008 2:24AM
Sarah Palin is Lying--Again
Rate: 11 Flag
Okay, let's break this down:
1. Upon being accused by the Daily Kos of NOT being the mother of 4-month-old Trig, and accused of covering for her then 16-year-old daughter by claiming the child as her own, VP candidate Sarah Palin responds NOT by releasing run-of-the-mill medical records which would name the obstetrician, the pediatrician, the on-call anesthesiologist, the nurses--in short, records that would name the dozen or so people who would have witnessed and could attest to the truthfulness of Palin's assertion that she did, in fact, give birth to Palin on April whatever, and St. Whatever Hospital in Wherever, Alaska.
Nope. To prove she is Trig's mother, she makes a public statement that, in effect, only serves to make it "impossible" that her daughter Bristol is Trig's mother, by asserting that Bristol is "five months' pregnant," making it "physically impossible" that Bristol is Trig's mother.
Think this through: Let's assume Palin is telling the truth: She's Trig's mother, and Bristol is five months' along.
If Palin had wanted to end all speculation about her maternity, the logical, simple, and irrefutable thing to have done would have been to release her own medical records, which would have provided virtually indisputable proof of the fact that she--and not Bristol--was the mother of that child.
And in releasing these records, she could easily have spared her daughter the embarrasment of being outed on an international scale as a "fornicator," and a teen mother. In other words, Bristol's current pregnancy is entirely irrelevant to Palin's authenticity as Trig's mother. So if she's telling the truth and can prove it, why bring Bristol into it at all? Why throw your pregnant, teenaged daughter under the bus and international scrutiny if you don't have to? If there's another, simple, honest way to end the potentially damaging speculation?
The simple anser is, there is no good reason.
Here's the timeline--let's see if it makes sense to anyone else.
According to the Daily Kos, Bristol left school under doctor's orders because she was suffering from mono, at a time that would have coincided with the end of her first trimester, were she in fact Trig's mother. She stays out of school for eight months, which would make sense assuming a second and third trimester and a month or so to recover her pre-pregnancy figure.
Bristol is photographed in an official family portrait taken in approximately November of 2007 sporting a noticable "baby bump." She then disappears from public view.
In March 2008, Palin pubicly "acknowledges" her pregnancy. All reports quote staffers and press who have been in contact with Palin over the past several months as expressing "shock" that she didn't "look pregnant at all."
Yesterday, the Daily Kos pulls together several videos and photographs which seem to suggest that Palin wasn't "showing" in any recognizable way, despite this being her purported fifth child.
In April, ostensibly eight months' pregnant, Palin flies to Houston to deliver a key-note speech at a Republican convention. Sometime prior to her speech, she claims her "water broke," meaning her amniotic sac had ruptured, which is--as any woman who has gone through labor at least once knows--an indication that delivery is imminent.
Rather than go to the hospital to undergo what ANY OBSTETRICIAN IN AMERICA would describe as a "high-risk" birth, she stays and gives her key-note address. No one in the audience discerns any distress on her part, despite her assertion that at this point, she was in early labor.
(Note: I've had two kids. I've been in early labor. I could not have held a coherent phone converstion much less delivered a keynote address, in labor. But then again, I'm not Sarah Palin.)
But I digress: She ends her speech and travels immediately--NOT to the nearest state-0f-the-art Houston hospital where her Down syndrome baby could be delivered safely, but...to the airport. Where she boards a commercial flight with a duration of some 9.5 hours, back to Alaska. Complete with a layover in Seattle.
NONE of the attendants on that fligh recall Palin as being in any distress--or even physical discomfort. In fact, none of them remember remarking Palin's supposed pregnancy at all. But maybe they were just a particularly unobservant crew, even thought the governor of the flight's destination state was on board. I'm sure they barely noticed her at all--a 44-year-old governor, 35 weeks' pregnant, in preterm labor, with a security detail and her husband and assistant and press aide in tow. They'd be easy to miss, don't you think?
Some 2o hours after her water broke in Houston (in first mothers, you start to get worried at 12 hours. In a high-risk pregancy, you worry immediately. In a fith pregnancy that's considered high risk, you don't even travel after month 7), Palin and her entourage arrive in Alaska and deplane. They then get into a car and drive past not one but TWO state-of-the-art medical facilities that could have handled a high-rist delivery of an at-risk infant with flying colors. Instead, Sarah Palin opts to push on for an additional TWO FULL HOURS so that she can "deliver her son Trig" in a podunk hospital in rural Alaska, "attended" by her friend and political appointee Cathy Baldwin-Johnson.
There, she delivers Trig.
Three days later, Pailin returns to work and announces that Trig has Down syndrome. She claims that she and her husband knew of the child's condition prior to his birth and chose not to terminate the pregnancy in keeping with their "prolife beliefs."
And there's where it gets even fishier: If Palin in fact did know that her child had Down syndrom and that the delivery would have been considered "high risk" for any woman because of the medical complications that arise for Down syndrome infants, ON TOP of the fact that this was her supposed "fifth" delivery, why would any responsible mother chose to travel for 22 hours in active labor rather than check into a world-class medical facility in Houston?
Why wouldn't any of the hundreds of people she would have encountered that day remember a woman in recognizable labor?
And finally, why, in an attempt to dispel once and for all the rumors that she was not in fact Trig's mother, would she not release innocuous and accurate medical records attesting to that indisputable fact and instead impugn her own 17-year-old daughter?
IF Sarah Palin is Trig's mother, Bristol's "subsequent" pregnancy is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to that fact. Totally. Brig's maternity is a matter of medical record, which is easily released and utterly indisputable.
But the only defence Palin's camp can put up is not proof of her own maternity but the supposed "impossibility" of Bristol's maternity of Trig. Which is an extremely roundabout way to prove the point, and simultaneously throws her teenaged daughter under the bus by making her pre-marital teen pregnancy an international news story.
One more time, PALIN outs her daughter as an unwed teen mother IN DEFENSE of her own maternity of Trig. If she were Trig's mother, there are absolutely indisputable ways to prove that (the release of her medical records) that don't impugn anyone else. There's no reason to "prove" that Bristol "couldn't be" Trig's mother.
And if Palin is Trig's mother and can prove it, WHY OUT HER DAUGHTER? Why subject her 17-year-old daughter to public humilation if it wasn't absolutely necessary?
The answer? Because it was. There are no medical records that can prove that Sarah Palin is Trig's biological mother, because she isn't.
Mark my words, one of three things is going to happen post-convention, and none of them are good for the McCain campaign:1. Palin will drop out of the race without acknowleding maternity of Trig and cite the "pressures of preserving her family's privacy and integrity during a tryint time" as reasons.
2. Palin will admit to the subterfuge and drop out of the race citing protection of her daughter as her motive, and then promptly agreed to an exclusive sit-down with Barbara Walters to give the "Palin side of the story."
3. Palin will continue to lie, until demands for irrefutable proof of her maternity overwhelm the campaign. She'll either produce, or she'll opt for No. 1, or 2.
Okay, once again because I'm not sure how clearly I've made the point: When faced with the politital obligation to verify one's own maternity of a child, why would anyone incorporate the medically and factually irrelevant fact of their under-aged daughter's unwed pregnancy as proof if they had ANYTHING ELSE to offer?
If Sarah Palin DIDN'T HAVE to make her daughter the object of scrutiny to prove she hadn't lied, why in God's name would she do so?
And that, as they say, is the the proverbial Fat Lady singing.
SEPTEMBER 2, 2008 2:24AM
Sarah Palin is Lying--Again
Rate: 11 Flag
Okay, let's break this down:
1. Upon being accused by the Daily Kos of NOT being the mother of 4-month-old Trig, and accused of covering for her then 16-year-old daughter by claiming the child as her own, VP candidate Sarah Palin responds NOT by releasing run-of-the-mill medical records which would name the obstetrician, the pediatrician, the on-call anesthesiologist, the nurses--in short, records that would name the dozen or so people who would have witnessed and could attest to the truthfulness of Palin's assertion that she did, in fact, give birth to Palin on April whatever, and St. Whatever Hospital in Wherever, Alaska.
Nope. To prove she is Trig's mother, she makes a public statement that, in effect, only serves to make it "impossible" that her daughter Bristol is Trig's mother, by asserting that Bristol is "five months' pregnant," making it "physically impossible" that Bristol is Trig's mother.
Think this through: Let's assume Palin is telling the truth: She's Trig's mother, and Bristol is five months' along.
If Palin had wanted to end all speculation about her maternity, the logical, simple, and irrefutable thing to have done would have been to release her own medical records, which would have provided virtually indisputable proof of the fact that she--and not Bristol--was the mother of that child.
And in releasing these records, she could easily have spared her daughter the embarrasment of being outed on an international scale as a "fornicator," and a teen mother. In other words, Bristol's current pregnancy is entirely irrelevant to Palin's authenticity as Trig's mother. So if she's telling the truth and can prove it, why bring Bristol into it at all? Why throw your pregnant, teenaged daughter under the bus and international scrutiny if you don't have to? If there's another, simple, honest way to end the potentially damaging speculation?
The simple anser is, there is no good reason.
Here's the timeline--let's see if it makes sense to anyone else.
According to the Daily Kos, Bristol left school under doctor's orders because she was suffering from mono, at a time that would have coincided with the end of her first trimester, were she in fact Trig's mother. She stays out of school for eight months, which would make sense assuming a second and third trimester and a month or so to recover her pre-pregnancy figure.
Bristol is photographed in an official family portrait taken in approximately November of 2007 sporting a noticable "baby bump." She then disappears from public view.
In March 2008, Palin pubicly "acknowledges" her pregnancy. All reports quote staffers and press who have been in contact with Palin over the past several months as expressing "shock" that she didn't "look pregnant at all."
Yesterday, the Daily Kos pulls together several videos and photographs which seem to suggest that Palin wasn't "showing" in any recognizable way, despite this being her purported fifth child.
In April, ostensibly eight months' pregnant, Palin flies to Houston to deliver a key-note speech at a Republican convention. Sometime prior to her speech, she claims her "water broke," meaning her amniotic sac had ruptured, which is--as any woman who has gone through labor at least once knows--an indication that delivery is imminent.
Rather than go to the hospital to undergo what ANY OBSTETRICIAN IN AMERICA would describe as a "high-risk" birth, she stays and gives her key-note address. No one in the audience discerns any distress on her part, despite her assertion that at this point, she was in early labor.
(Note: I've had two kids. I've been in early labor. I could not have held a coherent phone converstion much less delivered a keynote address, in labor. But then again, I'm not Sarah Palin.)
But I digress: She ends her speech and travels immediately--NOT to the nearest state-0f-the-art Houston hospital where her Down syndrome baby could be delivered safely, but...to the airport. Where she boards a commercial flight with a duration of some 9.5 hours, back to Alaska. Complete with a layover in Seattle.
NONE of the attendants on that fligh recall Palin as being in any distress--or even physical discomfort. In fact, none of them remember remarking Palin's supposed pregnancy at all. But maybe they were just a particularly unobservant crew, even thought the governor of the flight's destination state was on board. I'm sure they barely noticed her at all--a 44-year-old governor, 35 weeks' pregnant, in preterm labor, with a security detail and her husband and assistant and press aide in tow. They'd be easy to miss, don't you think?
Some 2o hours after her water broke in Houston (in first mothers, you start to get worried at 12 hours. In a high-risk pregancy, you worry immediately. In a fith pregnancy that's considered high risk, you don't even travel after month 7), Palin and her entourage arrive in Alaska and deplane. They then get into a car and drive past not one but TWO state-of-the-art medical facilities that could have handled a high-rist delivery of an at-risk infant with flying colors. Instead, Sarah Palin opts to push on for an additional TWO FULL HOURS so that she can "deliver her son Trig" in a podunk hospital in rural Alaska, "attended" by her friend and political appointee Cathy Baldwin-Johnson.
There, she delivers Trig.
Three days later, Pailin returns to work and announces that Trig has Down syndrome. She claims that she and her husband knew of the child's condition prior to his birth and chose not to terminate the pregnancy in keeping with their "prolife beliefs."
And there's where it gets even fishier: If Palin in fact did know that her child had Down syndrom and that the delivery would have been considered "high risk" for any woman because of the medical complications that arise for Down syndrome infants, ON TOP of the fact that this was her supposed "fifth" delivery, why would any responsible mother chose to travel for 22 hours in active labor rather than check into a world-class medical facility in Houston?
Why wouldn't any of the hundreds of people she would have encountered that day remember a woman in recognizable labor?
And finally, why, in an attempt to dispel once and for all the rumors that she was not in fact Trig's mother, would she not release innocuous and accurate medical records attesting to that indisputable fact and instead impugn her own 17-year-old daughter?
IF Sarah Palin is Trig's mother, Bristol's "subsequent" pregnancy is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to that fact. Totally. Brig's maternity is a matter of medical record, which is easily released and utterly indisputable.
But the only defence Palin's camp can put up is not proof of her own maternity but the supposed "impossibility" of Bristol's maternity of Trig. Which is an extremely roundabout way to prove the point, and simultaneously throws her teenaged daughter under the bus by making her pre-marital teen pregnancy an international news story.
One more time, PALIN outs her daughter as an unwed teen mother IN DEFENSE of her own maternity of Trig. If she were Trig's mother, there are absolutely indisputable ways to prove that (the release of her medical records) that don't impugn anyone else. There's no reason to "prove" that Bristol "couldn't be" Trig's mother.
And if Palin is Trig's mother and can prove it, WHY OUT HER DAUGHTER? Why subject her 17-year-old daughter to public humilation if it wasn't absolutely necessary?
The answer? Because it was. There are no medical records that can prove that Sarah Palin is Trig's biological mother, because she isn't.
Mark my words, one of three things is going to happen post-convention, and none of them are good for the McCain campaign:1. Palin will drop out of the race without acknowleding maternity of Trig and cite the "pressures of preserving her family's privacy and integrity during a tryint time" as reasons.
2. Palin will admit to the subterfuge and drop out of the race citing protection of her daughter as her motive, and then promptly agreed to an exclusive sit-down with Barbara Walters to give the "Palin side of the story."
3. Palin will continue to lie, until demands for irrefutable proof of her maternity overwhelm the campaign. She'll either produce, or she'll opt for No. 1, or 2.
Okay, once again because I'm not sure how clearly I've made the point: When faced with the politital obligation to verify one's own maternity of a child, why would anyone incorporate the medically and factually irrelevant fact of their under-aged daughter's unwed pregnancy as proof if they had ANYTHING ELSE to offer?
If Sarah Palin DIDN'T HAVE to make her daughter the object of scrutiny to prove she hadn't lied, why in God's name would she do so?
And that, as they say, is the the proverbial Fat Lady singing.
It looks better than IE and FF. It's faster. It imported everything without a single problem and I like it better. Why not better than IE - I've already just dumped FF.
I just downloaded it. It kicks IE and FF's ass. And it's Beta. WOW.
http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/190368/Google_Chrome_Download_Link.html
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"Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her husband Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, according to aides of Republican presidential candidate John McCain."
Aids are saying how pregnant she is - not doctors.
Re-Open - this is a cover up.
Aids are saying how pregnant she is - not doctors.
Re-Open - this is a cover up.
On Friday, April 18th, 2008, Sarah and her husband Todd were in Dallas, Texas for a Republican Governor's Convention. They had been in town for three days already, but Sarah had yet to give her keynote speaker address on energy policy. Then early Friday morning at 4:00am, Sarah began leaking amniotic fluid.
So she gave birth in April.
May, June, July, August, September.
Her daughter easily could have gotten pregnant again. Are you aware that after giving birth you are at your most fertile?
Also we are taking their word that she is 5 months pregnant.
This needs to be re-opened.
So she gave birth in April.
May, June, July, August, September.
Her daughter easily could have gotten pregnant again. Are you aware that after giving birth you are at your most fertile?
Also we are taking their word that she is 5 months pregnant.
This needs to be re-opened.
How could this possibly be settled as No. That's retarded. There is substantial evidence that she is not the mother and that makes her a grandmother.
I never missed an x-files episode. But I had no huge urge to see it because the show had been over for so long. Also Step Brothers was getting good reviews
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Well I would imagine that Batman will take most of the Box Office for the second weekend in a row. So if you have people wanting to see action they will see that over x-files.
Step Brothers is getting rave reviews - I think it's gonna beat x-files.
Step Brothers is getting rave reviews - I think it's gonna beat x-files.
As of today expected to do 130M this weekend and is already selling out in advance. Probably will be one of the biggest openings in history.
Yeah you're right. I just came back from seeing it - thought it was pretty good. Last time I pay attention to the reviews. There were not many people to see it though and the movieplex was full so maybe it wont do much more....
Well that's that last time I bet against Will Smith...
Congrats to Destry and Lucid. Enjoy my money.
Lucid how about some more Dark Knight questions and some of the other big ones coming up like HellBoy. HellBoy could be huge but I don't know how many saw the first one...
Congrats to Destry and Lucid. Enjoy my money.
Lucid how about some more Dark Knight questions and some of the other big ones coming up like HellBoy. HellBoy could be huge but I don't know how many saw the first one...
I don't do the lottery - until powerball gets here.
Tell me this. Out of all of the 4th of July weekends how many times has the actual 4th been on a Friday night - the strongest movie night of the weekend?
I think you will be shocked at how low the box office results will be for the Friday. Then I think Saturday you may get a bump. Then you have the Sunday problem of people going home after a long weekend - they don't want to go to the movies.
Tell me this. Out of all of the 4th of July weekends how many times has the actual 4th been on a Friday night - the strongest movie night of the weekend?
I think you will be shocked at how low the box office results will be for the Friday. Then I think Saturday you may get a bump. Then you have the Sunday problem of people going home after a long weekend - they don't want to go to the movies.
Thanks for the easy money at 10-15M. Next week Hellboy II, Journey To the Center of the Earth and Meet Dave.
It's going to be very close. It could have a BIG falloff tonight because of the fourth and then sunday night.
I don't even have much bet on this and I really don't care. I don't want any of you to get your panties in a bunch.
My theory of betting this one was that the first night would be weak because it was a weekday. Kids still in school etc.
If I had thought it would have played tues night and gotten some positive attention I would NOT have bet for wed night so low.
Is that so wrong of me?
Don't freak out dude. I am with you with the people trying to get out of questions. If they want to settle this your way I don't care. I would rather have that than a mutiny.
But I maintain I do have a point.
My theory of betting this one was that the first night would be weak because it was a weekday. Kids still in school etc.
If I had thought it would have played tues night and gotten some positive attention I would NOT have bet for wed night so low.
Is that so wrong of me?
Don't freak out dude. I am with you with the people trying to get out of questions. If they want to settle this your way I don't care. I would rather have that than a mutiny.
But I maintain I do have a point.
Actually I think if it had been released on wed as it was supposed to do it would have made 6.8M. But it wasn't. I'm not being a bad sport. The question turned out to be flawed because of the weird start date.
You just have to disagree. Then I agree the question is fine if we use the first day - This is what the question asks.
How much will " Hancock " earn on it's first day of release
It earned about 6.8M.
So settle it that way.
How much will " Hancock " earn on it's first day of release
It earned about 6.8M.
So settle it that way.
Good question.... I've started betting on it... let's see what you and Destry do so I can do the opposite :>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080702/film_nm/boxoffice_dc
Starring Smith as a chronically hung-over, often-reckless superhero, "Hancock" is expected to give Sony Pictures its first No. 1 release of the lucrative season and gross $70 million to $80 million in its opening weekend.
Starring Smith as a chronically hung-over, often-reckless superhero, "Hancock" is expected to give Sony Pictures its first No. 1 release of the lucrative season and gross $70 million to $80 million in its opening weekend.
OK, I see the 17M number for Wed. But I also see people saying it will do 70M because of the holiday. Unless it rains they say.
And make sure that link doesnt add tuesday to that figure which I bet it does. So take away 6.8M and we're in my range.
So since the crappy 35% rating hasnt gone down you think that's good?
That's like saying you were in a car accident but at least one bone didn't break - yet.
That's like saying you were in a car accident but at least one bone didn't break - yet.
You may think of the tuesday opening as a positive but I see it as a massive negative. That's 6.8M that would have gone towards the wed-sun total but won't be counted. Also those who saw it Tuesday are now bad mouthing it to their friends :>
I'd like to see how it does today.
I'd like to see how it does today.
http://www.the-numbers.com/charts/daily/2008/20080701.php
This shows that it grossed 6.8M Tuesday.
Since we don't count that how will this be handled.
This shows that it grossed 6.8M Tuesday.
Since we don't count that how will this be handled.
Man you should see the last 5 reviews at Rotten Tomatoes...
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2/5
Even Smith needs good material, and it's fitfully supplied here.
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07/01/08
Dan Lybarger
eFilmCritic.com
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N/A
This antihero merely spreads his suckage filmwide.
Full Review | comment Comment
07/01/08
Tricia Olszewski
Movie Babe
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2/4
It's like dating Britney Spears. Too much drama.
Full Review | comment Comment
07/01/08
Willie Waffle
WaffleMovies.com
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C+
Has a promising premise.
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07/01/08
Dennis Schwartz
Ozus' World Movie Reviews
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2.5/4
Too bad it's brought down by the most dreaded form of cinematic kryptonite %u2013 the fear of going against an audience's expectations and giving them the same old superhero song and dance.
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07/01/08
Charles Koplinski
Illinois Times
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2.25/4
Remember Wild Wild West? Well...
Full Review | comment Comment
07/01/08
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2/5
Even Smith needs good material, and it's fitfully supplied here.
Full Review | comment Comment
07/01/08
Dan Lybarger
eFilmCritic.com
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N/A
This antihero merely spreads his suckage filmwide.
Full Review | comment Comment
07/01/08
Tricia Olszewski
Movie Babe
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2/4
It's like dating Britney Spears. Too much drama.
Full Review | comment Comment
07/01/08
Willie Waffle
WaffleMovies.com
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C+
Has a promising premise.
Full Review | comment Comment
07/01/08
Dennis Schwartz
Ozus' World Movie Reviews
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2.5/4
Too bad it's brought down by the most dreaded form of cinematic kryptonite %u2013 the fear of going against an audience's expectations and giving them the same old superhero song and dance.
Full Review | comment Comment
07/01/08
Charles Koplinski
Illinois Times
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2.25/4
Remember Wild Wild West? Well...
Full Review | comment Comment
07/01/08
Im amazed at how much the market is moving on such low bets at this point. Something is weird.
As far as rich as you... I'll start counting the money Sunday Night.
I'll probably go see the movie just because Charlize Theron is in it.
As far as rich as you... I'll start counting the money Sunday Night.
I'll probably go see the movie just because Charlize Theron is in it.
I think I've cashed in about 3000-4000 from it so far but I only could afford to put 30k in the market because you are richer.
As far as predictions Wednesday is very hard. I see 10m or less. It's a weekday and I just don't see people running to see this. I think this works to your disadvantage since the people seeing it on Wednesday will be badmouthing it very early on in the week.
Then Thurs and Fri you have the 4th and the Fireworks. That will put a dent in a movie that as I said isn't Iron Man or anything highly anticipated. Thurs night maybe if you're lucky it makes 12M. Friday I can see possibly 15M and Saturday maybe 12M again. Sunday 10M. That adds up to about 60M which I think is actually a good opening for it.
As far as predictions Wednesday is very hard. I see 10m or less. It's a weekday and I just don't see people running to see this. I think this works to your disadvantage since the people seeing it on Wednesday will be badmouthing it very early on in the week.
Then Thurs and Fri you have the 4th and the Fireworks. That will put a dent in a movie that as I said isn't Iron Man or anything highly anticipated. Thurs night maybe if you're lucky it makes 12M. Friday I can see possibly 15M and Saturday maybe 12M again. Sunday 10M. That adds up to about 60M which I think is actually a good opening for it.
Destry I keep seeing you bid up the top amount.... you do know that I'm selling that amount into your buying and then picking up the lower amounts? I've already made a nice profit!
Ah I do have to point out since I have a ton of money on this that many people now are hearing the buzz on Wanted and will see that instead.
and FYI Wall-E did 62M in three days. This movie doesnt even have close to the marketing of hype. Wall-E did about 20M a day. If Hancock does 12M a day which is generous then it does 60M total.
Right now it's 35% on Rotten Tomatoes. It's going to get terrible word of mouth and all of the other movies opening at the same time are getting 80% plus.
FRESH: 81 81% Kit Kittredge: An Amer…
ROTTEN: 36 36% Hancock
FRESH: 100 100% Kabluey
FRESH: 94 94% Tell No One
FRESH: 86 86% Gonzo: The Life and Wo…
FRESH: 81 81% Kit Kittredge: An Amer…
ROTTEN: 36 36% Hancock
FRESH: 100 100% Kabluey
FRESH: 94 94% Tell No One
FRESH: 86 86% Gonzo: The Life and Wo…
No... look at all my bets I have a TON bet under that. I am just trying to make sure I don't lose it all if you're right.
And I'm too fast for you - I just bet a bunch on the lower amounts and then bet a ton on the over so I have some backup in case your right. Now its back to 80% and I'm done :>
LOL.
I will admit it's a long weekend. If it was a normal weekend you'd have no chance. Also it is will smith and it is a superhero movie. But I think you might have problems with it getting horrid reviews and people wanting to be outside.
Also kids are going to see "fun" movies - this is not one of those movies.
I will admit it's a long weekend. If it was a normal weekend you'd have no chance. Also it is will smith and it is a superhero movie. But I think you might have problems with it getting horrid reviews and people wanting to be outside.
Also kids are going to see "fun" movies - this is not one of those movies.
It's me Destry - once again we are at opposite ends. Please keep betting. This movie is a DUD. Rotten Tomatoes has it at 30% which is terrible.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hancock/
Between the jittery pseudo-realism of Peter Berg's direction and the maudlin undercurrent to its hero's redemption, all Hancock can summon up is the faintest sensation of nausea.
Even Will Smith's jerky superhero (and another winning supporting turn from Jason Bateman) can't save the latter half of this film's messy script.
Hancock has about 50 minutes of action and dark, edgy humour before it veers off into cheese land.
A super-dud.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hancock/
Between the jittery pseudo-realism of Peter Berg's direction and the maudlin undercurrent to its hero's redemption, all Hancock can summon up is the faintest sensation of nausea.
Even Will Smith's jerky superhero (and another winning supporting turn from Jason Bateman) can't save the latter half of this film's messy script.
Hancock has about 50 minutes of action and dark, edgy humour before it veers off into cheese land.
A super-dud.
Dark Knight will kick ass no question. Hancock will either be gold or garbage... hard to tell before some reviews.
Nights not over - going to see wanted and maybe Ill push it up.
I said it would be big and I was right
making it the #1 June opening for an R-rated film in history, and the 6th-biggest first weekend ever for a movie with that MPAA rating.
I said it would be big and I was right
making it the #1 June opening for an R-rated film in history, and the 6th-biggest first weekend ever for a movie with that MPAA rating.
Yeah that means I break about even....more or less. If Pixar hadnt hyped wall-e to death wanted would have taken it.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
June 27–29, 2008
Studio Estimates
1 N Wall-E BV $62,500,000 - 3,992 - $15,656 $62,500,000 $180 1
2 N Wanted Uni. $51,118,000 - 3,175 - $16,100 $51,118,000 $75 1
June 27–29, 2008
Studio Estimates
1 N Wall-E BV $62,500,000 - 3,992 - $15,656 $62,500,000 $180 1
2 N Wanted Uni. $51,118,000 - 3,175 - $16,100 $51,118,000 $75 1
Just saw this..
Angelina Jolie's R-rated action thriller Wanted took in $51 million its first weekend at the box-office, making it the #1 June opening for an R-rated film in history, and the 6th-biggest first weekend ever for a movie with that MPAA rating.
That means if those are final number which they are not, wall-e needs to make more than 68M to win.
Angelina Jolie's R-rated action thriller Wanted took in $51 million its first weekend at the box-office, making it the #1 June opening for an R-rated film in history, and the 6th-biggest first weekend ever for a movie with that MPAA rating.
That means if those are final number which they are not, wall-e needs to make more than 68M to win.
Well I just came back from Wall-E and honestly - it sucked. The kids kinda liked it but the other adults thought it was bad. The older kids didn't like it.
I asked the ticket counter which movie was selling better and she said about equal.
Further, our 16 year old babysitter who is coming tonight called to see if she could come later - because she was seeing wanted right now.
I smell an upsetl
I asked the ticket counter which movie was selling better and she said about equal.
Further, our 16 year old babysitter who is coming tonight called to see if she could come later - because she was seeing wanted right now.
I smell an upsetl
Ha! I just hedged by bet by betting on Wall-E 17 mil or less. that way I break even if it happens. If Wanted wins I get tons.
By the way - the local theaters here are showing them on same # of screens and general times.
By the way - the local theaters here are showing them on same # of screens and general times.
You see here is the flaw in your logic.
You think because Wall-E got great reviews it will do great. I think it would do great regardless and that great reviews were built in. I was going to take the family despite the reviews and I think many are the same.
At the same time - there is a vacancy for a terrific action movie rated R for adults and people have been seeing Wanted previews before every movie and hoping it would be great - and it is. I think Wanted will be packed.
Maybe it will come down to the 17 mil or less on either side. I don't know. I do know I will be seeing wanted tomorrow night.
You think because Wall-E got great reviews it will do great. I think it would do great regardless and that great reviews were built in. I was going to take the family despite the reviews and I think many are the same.
At the same time - there is a vacancy for a terrific action movie rated R for adults and people have been seeing Wanted previews before every movie and hoping it would be great - and it is. I think Wanted will be packed.
Maybe it will come down to the 17 mil or less on either side. I don't know. I do know I will be seeing wanted tomorrow night.
I have 21,000 bet on Wanted.... half on under 17 and half on over.
If I can raise more money and if you suckers bet more on Wall-E I'll bet more :>
If I can raise more money and if you suckers bet more on Wall-E I'll bet more :>
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/reviewsnews.php?id=46317
Rotten tomatoes has it at 85% and going up.
As far as why I still play on HubDub... 1) I'm unemployed (not for long), and 2) I'm obsessive with the internet and this site keeps pulling me back :>
Rotten tomatoes has it at 85% and going up.
As far as why I still play on HubDub... 1) I'm unemployed (not for long), and 2) I'm obsessive with the internet and this site keeps pulling me back :>
Also make no mistake, I'll be taking my kids this weekend to Wall-E, and will go to wanted Friday night with my wife. So if this were based on my family then Wall-E would win because 4 of us will see Wall-E and only two will see Wanted.
I have a feeling Destry didn't understand The Matrix either.
I've read all the reviews of Wanted and they all say it's much more understandable than the Matrix films of which it's being compared to. There is also talk that Jolie might be the main character in the sequels.
In any event if I win great, if not, no big deal I'll just bet the rest on something else until I run out of money and quite. Honestly Hubdub had alot of potential but it's just boring now.
I've read all the reviews of Wanted and they all say it's much more understandable than the Matrix films of which it's being compared to. There is also talk that Jolie might be the main character in the sequels.
In any event if I win great, if not, no big deal I'll just bet the rest on something else until I run out of money and quite. Honestly Hubdub had alot of potential but it's just boring now.
I'm very familiar with all of the Wall-E trailers. Honestly I am fairly bored with hubdub and because of that I am going to start betting far more. I think Wall-E will do well. But I think you will find the reviews not as good as you think. Also - it's a kids movie - young kids. A the top I see 65M.
On the other hand this has been the BEST summer for action movies. Every teen out there has been wondering if Wanted will be good and now the reviews are saying terrific. I can see 80M+ easily for it.
There is no way wanted will do just 41M - If not for Iron Man etc... it would probably be considered the best action movie of the summer.
On the other hand this has been the BEST summer for action movies. Every teen out there has been wondering if Wanted will be good and now the reviews are saying terrific. I can see 80M+ easily for it.
There is no way wanted will do just 41M - If not for Iron Man etc... it would probably be considered the best action movie of the summer.
Action movies are the thing this year. With the incredible reviews of Wanted and the stars in it I think it will win. At the same time Wall-E is a kids movie which typically will do at best 50-60M. Wanted could do 70M plus.
8 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes of Wanted - 100% so far saying one of the best action movies of the year.
Actually they put Love Guru in the largest theater but I dont know how many were getting Get Smart. There were ALOT of teens in our theater and people were laughing.
I have a ton of money on the Love Guru. Get Smart wasn't that good on TV and I don't think people will flock to see it.
Meanwhile this generation loves everything Mike Meyers puts out including me. I'm just not interested in seeing some guy talk into a shoe.
Meanwhile this generation loves everything Mike Meyers puts out including me. I'm just not interested in seeing some guy talk into a shoe.
Get Smart will probably stink. The TV show wasn't even that good and the previews I've seen just are not funny.
On the other hand Meyers is hillarious and people will flock to see it.
On the other hand Meyers is hillarious and people will flock to see it.
Happy to lose this one cause I got it for the top of the year contest.... amazing openening.
Iron Man grossed $100.8 million, per studio estimates compiled Sunday by Exhibitor Relations Co., a number that makes the Robert Downey Jr. film second only to Spider-Man for comic book movie debuts.
The estimate does not include the movie's Thursday night sneaks. If it did, it'd be $3.5 million higher.
The estimate also doesn't include overseas ticket sales. If it did, it'd be nearly $100 million higher.
In all, by the close of business tonight, Iron Man is predicted to have taken in $104.3 million domestically and $201 million worldwide, or more than the entire global runs of Daredevil and Catwoman. Give it a few days or so, and it'll move past Batman & Robin and Ghost Rider on the all-time comic book movie list, as compiled by Box Office Mojo.
Iron Man grossed $100.8 million, per studio estimates compiled Sunday by Exhibitor Relations Co., a number that makes the Robert Downey Jr. film second only to Spider-Man for comic book movie debuts.
The estimate does not include the movie's Thursday night sneaks. If it did, it'd be $3.5 million higher.
The estimate also doesn't include overseas ticket sales. If it did, it'd be nearly $100 million higher.
In all, by the close of business tonight, Iron Man is predicted to have taken in $104.3 million domestically and $201 million worldwide, or more than the entire global runs of Daredevil and Catwoman. Give it a few days or so, and it'll move past Batman & Robin and Ghost Rider on the all-time comic book movie list, as compiled by Box Office Mojo.
Old enough to have stood in line around the theater waiting to get in for each Star Wars.
Indi has the huge advantage of an extra day holiday weekend which will be hard to beat. And if it's any good it should win. However will it be good enough - look at the Iron Man reviews - amazing. Wall-E may be similar and kids will be all over it.
Indi has the huge advantage of an extra day holiday weekend which will be hard to beat. And if it's any good it should win. However will it be good enough - look at the Iron Man reviews - amazing. Wall-E may be similar and kids will be all over it.
The rental had nothing to do with the unrated version it had to do with a movie that caught on after the release. H&K is gonna kick ASS
Cast : Starring: Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, Greg Kinnear, Sigourney Weaver, Dax Shepard
Nothing here to get my interest unless there are Aliens involved.
Nothing here to get my interest unless there are Aliens involved.
Ah ratings don't make a difference when one movie is something a child would never ever ever be willing to go to. On the other hand H&K was a massive hit in rentals and people are looking for funny.
Is Julia Roberts in Baby Mama? I think she's fugly. I'd bet H&K has way better babes :>
Is Julia Roberts in Baby Mama? I think she's fugly. I'd bet H&K has way better babes :>
I'm married so I get laid whenever I wish.
Furthermore it's been so many years that I am not expected to go to pure chick flicks - she has friends :>
Furthermore it's been so many years that I am not expected to go to pure chick flicks - she has friends :>
Most of you forget that the last indiana jones was a loooong time ago. Us old folks are not enough to make it number 1 unless the reviews kick ass
I think this is such a horrid chick flick that getting laid wouldnt be worth it - that's why I'm betting on Harold and Kumar
Actually all you had to know is that Forgetting Sarah Marshall was a strong R with.... more kids went to see forbidden kingdom
Yahoo is reportedly moving closer toward outsourcing search to Google in a moveschmidt1.png designed to gain leverage in any talks with Microsoft. Let’s be clear: This story was leaked to the Wall Street Journal because Yahoo is likely to meet with Microsoft again soon.
According to the Wall Street Journal (Techmeme), Yahoo found that its limited test with Google went just swell. So swell that Yahoo may increase the amount of inventory it allows Google to use. Yahoo and Google teamed up on April 9. The Journal story cited people familiar with the matter. Translation: That’s Yahoo.
Yes, the Yahoo-Google test only lasted a few days and it’s unclear whether the results of these tests were some magic elixir, but that’s not the point. Yahoo is squeezing a lovelorn Microsoft, which is offering $31 a share for the portal. And Google is more than happy to play spoiler.
Antitrust concerns about a Google-Yahoo search deal? No need to worry about that–yet. Meanwhile, this Google partnership plays well with AOL, which could wind up merging with Yahoo somehow. Actually that AOL deal isn’t as dumb as it may appear.
In any case, it’s no coincidence that Yahoo and Google have finally found love. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer issued his ultimatum almost two full weeks ago. The clock is ticking and closure has to come soon.
According to the Wall Street Journal (Techmeme), Yahoo found that its limited test with Google went just swell. So swell that Yahoo may increase the amount of inventory it allows Google to use. Yahoo and Google teamed up on April 9. The Journal story cited people familiar with the matter. Translation: That’s Yahoo.
Yes, the Yahoo-Google test only lasted a few days and it’s unclear whether the results of these tests were some magic elixir, but that’s not the point. Yahoo is squeezing a lovelorn Microsoft, which is offering $31 a share for the portal. And Google is more than happy to play spoiler.
Antitrust concerns about a Google-Yahoo search deal? No need to worry about that–yet. Meanwhile, this Google partnership plays well with AOL, which could wind up merging with Yahoo somehow. Actually that AOL deal isn’t as dumb as it may appear.
In any case, it’s no coincidence that Yahoo and Google have finally found love. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer issued his ultimatum almost two full weeks ago. The clock is ticking and closure has to come soon.
Eric hard to do that on a suspended question - but if you can let me know how so I can put 10,000 more on yes.
tickle, I will accept your apology along with 50,000 hubdub points.
:>
Kidding - don't worry about it. Just a game.
:>
Kidding - don't worry about it. Just a game.
The question has an inherent problem because recessions are decided after they happen. So all of the numbers people are quoting not only are subject to change but we have probably been in a recession for longer than anyone thinks.
Perhaps the question should be voided and then made more concise. I can already see the screaming on this one.
Perhaps the question should be voided and then made more concise. I can already see the screaming on this one.
I think the answer should be determined by the news like everything else. If the Fed or the White house says we are in a recession then that decides it.
Of course it's the mens..... Kansas is going to win it all. I've already bet over 10k on this question.
Please go to http://getsatisfaction.com/hubdub/topics/how_to_fix_hubdub and make your opinion known.
Previous action withdrawn Today 12:28am PST by andrew: Question was not settled with an accurate answer
Settled as 'No' Today 12:30am PST by andrew: The common sense answer as we try to follow is no. Therefore I have resettled
Thank you - Common sense was what we were looking for.
Scott
Settled as 'No' Today 12:30am PST by andrew: The common sense answer as we try to follow is no. Therefore I have resettled
Thank you - Common sense was what we were looking for.
Scott
Is this going to be another screwed up question? It should have been settled at 5:15 Between $104.01 and 106.00 a barrel
You have no freakin idea how poor your logic is.
Think about this if your little brain can.
The DISCOUNT rate and the FED FUNDS rate are set differently - they DO NOT relate to one another. One is to banks the other is to people.
So by your warped logic, every question in the past guessing how much they will lower or raise rate by would be VOID because there are TWO answers. One is the Discount rate and one is the Fed Funds rate.
Tomorrow when they lower the Fed Funds rate but don't lower the discount rate as much then how do we decide who the winner is?
I will tell you how to decide - NO ONE BETS ON THE DISCOUNT RATE. NO ONE HAS EVER BET ON THE DISCOUNT RATE.
Are you aware that the Fed adds liquidity to the banking system by both lowering the Discount rate and by infusing cash into the system? (as they did so Bear Stears could be bought). THEY ARE THE SAME THING.
I have explained this so even a moron could understand.
And I am not the only one here who thinks this - the vast majority of posters agree with me.
Think about this if your little brain can.
The DISCOUNT rate and the FED FUNDS rate are set differently - they DO NOT relate to one another. One is to banks the other is to people.
So by your warped logic, every question in the past guessing how much they will lower or raise rate by would be VOID because there are TWO answers. One is the Discount rate and one is the Fed Funds rate.
Tomorrow when they lower the Fed Funds rate but don't lower the discount rate as much then how do we decide who the winner is?
I will tell you how to decide - NO ONE BETS ON THE DISCOUNT RATE. NO ONE HAS EVER BET ON THE DISCOUNT RATE.
Are you aware that the Fed adds liquidity to the banking system by both lowering the Discount rate and by infusing cash into the system? (as they did so Bear Stears could be bought). THEY ARE THE SAME THING.
I have explained this so even a moron could understand.
And I am not the only one here who thinks this - the vast majority of posters agree with me.
By the way I have been a professional trader for 16 years and held a SEAT on the Chicago Merchantile Exchange. Don't even try to say you know more than I do.
rightorwrong replied 3 hours ago
The question has details that reference the "open market committee." The rate that was changed was NOT the open market rate it was a private rate for banks only.
I agree with rohan - this question was not settled correctly.
randburg I am sick as hell and running a temp but that's not gonna stop me from calling you a manipulator and a lying scum.
The discount rate only applies to short term loans to banks it does not AFFECT anyone else. At EVERY fed meeting there is about a 50% chance that the discount rate to banks and the rate cut for everyone else is DIFFERENT.
You don't have a clue. And I don't think I can buy you one.
The discount rate only applies to short term loans to banks it does not AFFECT anyone else. At EVERY fed meeting there is about a 50% chance that the discount rate to banks and the rate cut for everyone else is DIFFERENT.
You don't have a clue. And I don't think I can buy you one.
FYI I had over 11K on NO because I am in the finanacial industry and I knew they would not cut the Fed Funds rate 1 day before the official meeting - it was common sense.
The people who asked for settlement did it without even a comment in here. I have a bad feeling they were screwing with hubdub and trying to get their way.
The people who asked for settlement did it without even a comment in here. I have a bad feeling they were screwing with hubdub and trying to get their way.
If the question is voided you may as well delete my account. I can't tell you how sick I am of this over and over again.
I also sent in something. The problem here is that they have given all of the YES's their money. They can't take it back.
They have totally screwed up and the only way to make everyone even on this is to give the NO's their win money as well. Voiding or re-opening without taking the money back from the mistaken winners won't work.
They have totally screwed up and the only way to make everyone even on this is to give the NO's their win money as well. Voiding or re-opening without taking the money back from the mistaken winners won't work.
Let's go a bit further into the insanity. If you really think you closed this question correctly then THIS question should also be closed.
http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/When_the_Fed_meets_on_March_18th_how_will_they_if_at_all_adjust_rates__4129
Too bad you can't close it because IT HASN'T been decided yet?
This question needs to be RE-OPENED.
http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/When_the_Fed_meets_on_March_18th_how_will_they_if_at_all_adjust_rates__4129
Too bad you can't close it because IT HASN'T been decided yet?
This question needs to be RE-OPENED.
Totally correct Rohan. The discount rate only applies to short term loans to banks. The fed funds rate is the rate everyone bets on.
Let me make this clear... as pics4d has made.
If this question is not corrected I will be leaving and taking people with me. This is getting ridiculous.
I AM A PROFESSIONAL TRADER. I KNOW THE MEANING OF THE QUESTION.
If this question is not corrected I will be leaving and taking people with me. This is getting ridiculous.
I AM A PROFESSIONAL TRADER. I KNOW THE MEANING OF THE QUESTION.
Additioanlly every time this question has been asked the question has been determined by the fed funds rate not the discount rate. The discount rate has been cut differently than the fed funds rate all the time and you have IN THE PAST followed the fed funds rate.
They DID NOT cut rates they cut the discount rate that only applies to banks. The Fed Funds rate is what the question refers to not the discount rate.
This question should still be open until tomorrow.
This question should still be open until tomorrow.
I agree completely. Rather than change the question as a clarification it should be voided completely and then re-written.
Further, there is too many stupid arguments about tiny little elements of questions after they have ended. This is supposed to be fun and a challenge but it's really not.
I almost quit last week but decided I would just stay around and screw around.
Further, there is too many stupid arguments about tiny little elements of questions after they have ended. This is supposed to be fun and a challenge but it's really not.
I almost quit last week but decided I would just stay around and screw around.
No, I put alot of money on this and stand to gain alot. If people would agree to a yes (since it's nearly a given) I think that would be better. There are questions that go a year... so what's a month.
I send an addition followup about the 5% question... this is the response.
I would not even venture a guess at this time. However, you could contact, as a random sampling, a local county board of elections, since they are the ones who receive the absentee ballots prior to and during the election. Try the Franklin County Board of Elections at www.franklincountyohio.gov/boe or at the number of 614-462-3100.
Eric
I would not even venture a guess at this time. However, you could contact, as a random sampling, a local county board of elections, since they are the ones who receive the absentee ballots prior to and during the election. Try the Franklin County Board of Elections at www.franklincountyohio.gov/boe or at the number of 614-462-3100.
Eric
Please do not void. I got an answer today. I think we should wait, it's only a half month away.
Nickolas, Eric [ENickola@sos.state.oh.us]
The information that you requested regarding the percentage of electors that voted before March 4th has not been compiled yet, because the Primary election has not yet been certified by the Secretary of State. Please check again sometime in April.
Eric C. Nickolas,
Constituent Liaison Representative
180 East Broad St., 15th Floor
Columbus, OH 43215
614-466-5516
fax: 614-485-7598
Nickolas, Eric [ENickola@sos.state.oh.us]
The information that you requested regarding the percentage of electors that voted before March 4th has not been compiled yet, because the Primary election has not yet been certified by the Secretary of State. Please check again sometime in April.
Eric C. Nickolas,
Constituent Liaison Representative
180 East Broad St., 15th Floor
Columbus, OH 43215
614-466-5516
fax: 614-485-7598
I dont give a crap about his letter. WATCH his speech today when HE RESIGNED. Jeez. You are like Bush - repeat repeat repeat.
If we are going to have to go through this stupid stuff for every big question out there this site will fail. Too many, too much.
When you get a SIMPLE question as "Will Governor Elliot Spitzer resign from office on 3/12/08?" and there are 1000 news orginazations that say HE DID then why are we even arguing?
When you get a SIMPLE question as "Will Governor Elliot Spitzer resign from office on 3/12/08?" and there are 1000 news orginazations that say HE DID then why are we even arguing?
One of the problems with HubDub (which I like very much) is that people get into any possible interpretation of the question.
The questions SHOULD be written more carefully. That's been an ongoing problem.
However THIS question was written very well and very clearly.
"Will Governor Elliot Spitzer resign from office on 3/12/08?"
The answer is that he resigned his office on 3/12/08, and will officially be leaving on the 17th. You CAN resign a position an leave at a later date.
DO NOT try to add onto a clear question as some are trying to do. I can cite a TON of news stories today that he RESIGNED TODAY.
This is the question. Those who are arguing otherwise either have money riding the wrong way or just poor reasoning skills.
The questions SHOULD be written more carefully. That's been an ongoing problem.
However THIS question was written very well and very clearly.
"Will Governor Elliot Spitzer resign from office on 3/12/08?"
The answer is that he resigned his office on 3/12/08, and will officially be leaving on the 17th. You CAN resign a position an leave at a later date.
DO NOT try to add onto a clear question as some are trying to do. I can cite a TON of news stories today that he RESIGNED TODAY.
This is the question. Those who are arguing otherwise either have money riding the wrong way or just poor reasoning skills.
once again the question Will Governor Elliot Spitzer resign from office on 3/12/08?
Not when its EFFECTIVE when will he RESIGN.
Any dope can do this logic.
Not when its EFFECTIVE when will he RESIGN.
Any dope can do this logic.
He resigned today. 100000000 news papers support it. What do you want, him to come here personally and decide the question?
It could not be MORE clear. That's what's so ANNOYING about this. He RESIGNED today effective Monday. Settle the question YES.
It was a VERY clear question. There should be no need for even an argument. That's been an ongoing issue at hubdub..
Posted: Wednesday, 12 March 2008 12:36PM
Gov. Spitzer Resigns -- Effective Monday
ALBANY, N.Y. (1010 WINS/AP) -- New York Governor Eliot Spitzer has resigned -- effective Monday. Spitzer says he will turn over the governor's post to Lieutenant Governor David Paterson, who will become New York's first black governor. Spitzer's resignation completes a stunning fall from power after he was nationally disgraced by links to a high-priced prostitution ring. His involvement as a customer was caught on a federal wiretap as part of an investigation opened in recent months.
He HAS resigned. It's just effective monday.
The question is "Will Governor Elliot Spitzer resign from office on 3/12/08?"
That is a yes.
If this question is not settled yes then I am done with HubDub. This is ridiculous.
Gov. Spitzer Resigns -- Effective Monday
ALBANY, N.Y. (1010 WINS/AP) -- New York Governor Eliot Spitzer has resigned -- effective Monday. Spitzer says he will turn over the governor's post to Lieutenant Governor David Paterson, who will become New York's first black governor. Spitzer's resignation completes a stunning fall from power after he was nationally disgraced by links to a high-priced prostitution ring. His involvement as a customer was caught on a federal wiretap as part of an investigation opened in recent months.
He HAS resigned. It's just effective monday.
The question is "Will Governor Elliot Spitzer resign from office on 3/12/08?"
That is a yes.
If this question is not settled yes then I am done with HubDub. This is ridiculous.
I have written the Sec of State of Ohio... http://www.sos.state.oh.us/index.aspx for the answer.
I also had Renee Brown of the Ohio Times look into it for us... to no avail - but she suggested the sec of state.
Brown, Renee [renee.brown@timesreporter.com] I did a little checking on the secretary of state’s site but could find no information specifically about how many absentee votes were cast statewide.
Sorry, renee
Hopefully we will have an answer next week.
Scott
I also had Renee Brown of the Ohio Times look into it for us... to no avail - but she suggested the sec of state.
Brown, Renee [renee.brown@timesreporter.com] I did a little checking on the secretary of state’s site but could find no information specifically about how many absentee votes were cast statewide.
Sorry, renee
Hopefully we will have an answer next week.
Scott
Both texas and ohio had the same early voting... Here are some Texas stats... as you can see it was a blowout - way over 5% ....http://www.politicalbase.com/news/clinton-obama-target-early-voting/49083/
An estimated 60 percent, or 2 million of the 3.3 million total voters, cast their ballots early, Texas Secretary of State Phil Wilson said Monday. The estimate is based on the slightly more than 1.2 million who voted in the 15 most populous counties during a 10-day period that ended Feb. 29.
Can't we just agree that Ohio was over 5% considering Texas was 60%????
An estimated 60 percent, or 2 million of the 3.3 million total voters, cast their ballots early, Texas Secretary of State Phil Wilson said Monday. The estimate is based on the slightly more than 1.2 million who voted in the 15 most populous counties during a 10-day period that ended Feb. 29.
Can't we just agree that Ohio was over 5% considering Texas was 60%????
Understood, but I did my research before the question and found they do keep these stats.
I have some emails pending to get the answer... and I wilL!
I have some emails pending to get the answer... and I wilL!
A large number – 712 – of provisional ballots were cast Tuesday. Those will be reviewed by the election board before being added to the unofficial totals to make the official results. This process, called certification, will occur on March 25.
Looks like we have to wait a bit to get the totals... I will continue to look.
Looks like we have to wait a bit to get the totals... I will continue to look.
Buffett: US Essentially in Recession
I think that qualifies... Buffett is the most respected investor on the planet.
I think that qualifies... Buffett is the most respected investor on the planet.
I knew he was a clone... had to be. Michael had no skill to do the kind of medical stuff he was doing and we all knew beckett would be back at some time. I like how they ended it.
MY GOD. This is the question.
Will there be an Ebay auction claiming to offer a piece, or pieces, of the dead spy satelitte on or before February 29, 2008 PST?
How can it be other than YES. If there is an auction selling a piece of the satilite that how can it not be a CLAIM? It's not an auction to NOT sell a piece of the sat.
Will there be an Ebay auction claiming to offer a piece, or pieces, of the dead spy satelitte on or before February 29, 2008 PST?
How can it be other than YES. If there is an auction selling a piece of the satilite that how can it not be a CLAIM? It's not an auction to NOT sell a piece of the sat.
You are so wrong. Recessions are judged AFTER the fact. We could be in one now already and the numbers would show it later. The prior economic numbers also are subject to adjustment.
I'm a professional trader. Don't get me started.
I'm a professional trader. Don't get me started.
How can ANYONE know it's a verifiable part of the sat? There is no way. The guy is honest - he thinks its part and he's selling it. Thats all we need.
Doesnt matter HOW suspicious it is. The question clearly states that " Will anyone claim to have pieces up for auction before the end of the month? "
This is answered in the affirmative. You cannot disagree with that. There can be fake pieces all over ebay and yet that means the question is answered in the favor of those who bet there would be some on ebay.
This is answered in the affirmative. You cannot disagree with that. There can be fake pieces all over ebay and yet that means the question is answered in the favor of those who bet there would be some on ebay.
I don't know why anyone would assume the pieces of the spy sat would all land in english speaking countries.
This is legit... the question should be settled in favor of those who bet on the auction being posted..
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Spionagesatellit-spy-satellite-USA-193-Satellit_W0QQitemZ120225925051QQihZ002QQcategoryZ34707QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Spionagesatellit-spy-satellite-USA-193-Satellit_W0QQitemZ120225925051QQihZ002QQcategoryZ34707QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Since the decision was made to make it a news story the odds have swung against those of us who bet yes so badly that the question should be voided.
Even in the description is says this "The US is attempting to destroy the dead spy satellite to prevent, "pieces showing up on Ebay". Will anyone claim to have pieces up for auction before the end of the month? "
That says NOTHING about being reported in the news.
Sure anyone can make an auction right now and win the bet... that's why I bet so much on it.
That says NOTHING about being reported in the news.
Sure anyone can make an auction right now and win the bet... that's why I bet so much on it.
No WAY! All it has to do is appear on ebay - that's the question. If it had been stated as Lesley says then I would NEVER have bet on it.
Void it.
Void it.
question should be voided due to uncertainty of count... stewart must have mentioned him at least 9 times :>
Russia has already condemned it calling it a missile test. Therefore "Some but not all of these worlds leaders condemn US shooting down satelite" wins.
You can't amend it. The question is valid and stands. The market's closed on Monday so the dow will be at 12348.21. Anyone who bet in that range wins.
You're question was "Where will the Dow Jones Average close on Monday, February 18, 2008?". Well we have the answer.
You're question was "Where will the Dow Jones Average close on Monday, February 18, 2008?". Well we have the answer.
As long as they consider blow up to mean blown up by a missile then I agree - unsuspend it and let it go. Otherwise void it.
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